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From Alessandro Solimando <alessandro.solima...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Date Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:41:14 GMT
Hello,
I have the impression too that Calcite is lesser known than other Apache
projects, but this is not that surprising to me given the nature of the
project itself, which requires in-depth knowledge of a rather complex
topic, which makes it is less prone to a casual use and plug&play adoption.
But IMO this is a point of strength and not a weakness, and it's what makes
Calcite so fascinating! This been said, spreading the word never hurts.

I also agree that the community is much more active now than in the past
two years, the effort has always been high but now there are more people
involved, which makes it easier.

On my side I mostly follow the "high-level" discussions more than the
individual tickets. Such discussions are constructive, pleasant to read and
instructive.

A big plus also for the high-quality research articles directly stemming
from the efforts of this community.

Last but not least, Stamatis would make a great PMC chair!

I take the chance to thank you all for the great deal of effort in keeping
the project alive at such high standards.

Best regards,
Alessandro



On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 17:00, Ruben Q L <rubenql@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> First of all, thanks for your work, Francis.
>
> While I am relatively new in this community I must admit that I totally
> agree with Danny Chan when he says that we had some *"interesting
> discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
> metadata etc.)"*. I think we must continue in this direction and keep on
> our good work together.
>
> Apart from that, I agree with Muhammad Gelbana too: ideally we could have
> more technical documentation of the main modules; but I am also aware that
> it can be very time consuming to generate such documentation, and also to
> maintain it, and we could easily have out-of-date material on our hands.
> So, I am not sure how we could proceed.
> Despite being a great project, I also have the impression that Calcite is
> not so well-known, and we need to "spread the word" to reach a bigger
> number of users.
>
> I cannot compare with previous years, but I what I have seen so far is a
> healthy community, with many people collaborating and willing to help
> beginner (and advanced) users.
>
> Finally, I think Stamatis is a great choice for PMC chair :)
>
> Best,
> Ruben Quesada Lopez
>
>
>
> Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 15:09, Michael Mior <mmior@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> > Thanks for the summary Francis and +1 for Stamatis as the next PMC chair
> :)
> >
> > --
> > Michael Mior
> > mmior@apache.org
> >
> > Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 02:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <zabetak@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis, you
> > did
> > > an excellent job!
> > >
> > > I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact that
> > we
> > > are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a
> lot
> > of
> > > information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite
> > easily.
> > > When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the archives
> > were
> > > indispensable.
> > >
> > > It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often regressions
> > > (and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the
> quality
> > > standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really
> paying
> > > attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of quality
> > over
> > > quantity.
> > >
> > > Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we
> > have
> > > to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to themselves
> > the
> > > review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
> > > advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really
> work
> > > much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack of
> > > time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time till
> > > they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at
> any
> > > time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about
> committing
> > > things faster.
> > >
> > > Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways by
> > > many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply
> > because
> > > they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe,
> > academic
> > > people and as a result university students, graduates, and future
> > engineers
> > > do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a
> university
> > in
> > > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before. I
> > > think such introductory talks in universities should be done more
> often.
> > > The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to
> spread
> > > the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it up.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and
> > very
> > > happy to serve if I am elected.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <panjuan@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> > > > titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for
> my
> > > > question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious.
> > Other
> > > > than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project.
> > As of
> > > > now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> > > > contributions to it as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Trista
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Juan Pan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > panjuan@apache.org
> > > > Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/23/2019 11:21,Chunwei Lei<chunwei.leii@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thank you for your great work, Francis!
> > > >
> > > > In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming
> > more and
> > > > more active, which means that more and
> > > > more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
> > > > encouraging.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
> > > > reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> > > > which really benefits a lot.
> > > >
> > > > I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I
> > hope we
> > > > can spend more time discussing and finding out
> > > > a solution in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chunwei
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yuzhao.cyz@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the
> > awesome
> > > > work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
> > > >
> > > > From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and
> > more
> > > > popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great
> > project, as
> > > > a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I
> > feel
> > > > very proud of that !
> > > >
> > > > For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to
> > have
> > > > better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people
> > to
> > > > make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable
> > for
> > > > production environments !
> > > >
> > > > I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> > > > interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some
> > valuable
> > > > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets
> > propagation, the
> > > > metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you
> > guys in
> > > > the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more
> > valuable
> > > > design !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again to everyone !
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Danny Chan
> > > > 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22,Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org>,写道:
> > > > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem,
> pull
> > > > requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better,
> > because a
> > > > few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still
> have
> > some
> > > > ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> > > >
> > > > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> > > > several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and
> > did a
> > > > great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly
> > be
> > > > for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> > > > individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> > > >
> > > > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo.
> Thank
> > > > you for pushing that change through!
> > > >
> > > > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> > > > propose him also.
> > > >
> > > > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every
> year.
> > > > Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and
> > has
> > > > advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept
> > Calcite in
> > > > good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> > > >
> > > > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> > > > Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I
> do
> > > > note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica
> > Go, in
> > > > fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole
> Calcite
> > > > project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between
> the
> > > > Calcite and Avatica communities.
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yuzhao.cyz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Danny Chan
> > > > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47,dev@calcite.apache.org,写道:
> > > >
> > > > Francis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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