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From "Ittay Dror (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (BUILDR-142) Allow running project tasks from a top directory in the same way as after 'cd' to the project's base dir
Date Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:35:44 GMT

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Ittay Dror commented on BUILDR-142:
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after reading assaf's comment, i'd like to say more.

there are three users to buildr. the ones writing extensions, the ones authoring buildfile
and the ones that simply run buildr. for the last 2 groups, i don't think there can be an
issue where things are going wrong and the use of fully qualified named tasks means anything
for these reasons:
1. if something functional goes wrong (that is, not a compilation error, but something in
the flow), they will likely turn to the first group to fix the error anyway
2. understanding from a task name what project it refers to is easy. people know projects
and know tasks. it is like classes and methods. if i tell you the method com.company.package.Foo.bar
has failed, is this confusing? does the use of 'import', to remove the need to fully qualify
class names  confusing?  

The fact that projects are defined as tasks and not a unique object outside of Rake is an
implementation detail. Not a must, they can be distinct entities, same as classes/objects
are distinct from methods. (Not everything in buildr that looks like it has the characteristics
of a task is a task. See for example the reverse example of Compiler, it is not a task, but
reimplements some task-like methods like 'needed?', 'compile_map' and 'dependencies'. )

> Allow running project tasks from a top directory in the same way as after 'cd' to the
project's base dir
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: BUILDR-142
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BUILDR-142
>             Project: Buildr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Core features
>    Affects Versions: 1.3.2
>            Reporter: Ittay Dror
>            Assignee: Victor Hugo Borja
>             Fix For: 1.3.3
>
>         Attachments: 0001-rspec-for-p-switch.patch, 0002-added-p-switch.patch, 0003-allow-project-names-with-path-separators.patch,
0004-list-project-names-with-file-separator.patch
>
>
> Currently, to run a specific project's tasks, there are two alternatives:
> 1. cd to the project's base dir and run 'buildr' or 'buildr <tasks>'. 
> 2. run 'buildr <project name>:<task1> <project name>:<task2>'
> The first one requires 'cd' and is not comfortable to run from an IDE. The second one
is verbose, cannot rely on default tasks and is confusing to new users. 
> Users usually expect the behavior as in 'make' or 'tar'. That is, a switch (usually -C)
that first does a 'cd' for you and then continues to run as usual. This is an issue I'm faced
with right now. People are confused when I tell them to run 'buildr top_project:sub_project:build'.
Also, people don't think of projects as tasks. This is an implementation detail of Buildr,
not something that people comprehend intuitively (at least my users)
> Moreover, several projects may share the same base directory (I intend to use this to
compile the same source tree with different configurations), so a 'cd' will cause both to
compile.
> Suggestion: add a '-p' switch that tells buildr the "local project" to use when running.
Then users simply invoke 'buildr -p top_project:sub_project' and all default tasks run. 
> Suggestion 2: since project names will usually correspond with a directory layout, allow
to specify them with File::SEPARATOR. this way, command line completion is easy (especially
in windows).

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