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No responsibility is accepted by Cloudsoft Corporation Limited in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. X-Legal-Confidentiality: This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. Cloudsoft Corporation Limited does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. X-Legal-Company-Info: Cloudsoft Corporation Limited. Registered in Scotland. Number: SC349230. Registered Office: 13 Dryden Place, Edinburgh, EH9 1RP. archived-at: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:14:15 -0000 --------------272907951FDCD1158F9719B8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, One issue I'd like to add for the website. Apache Brooklyn Applications catalog is not Search Engine Optimized :( Searching "Apache Brooklyn tomcat" doesn't give results in Web search engines. This could be related to some of my PRs for docs [1] I think hashtag urls are not well indexed. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-brooklyn/pull/524 On 13/04/17 17:41, Duncan Godwin wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I agree and had been thinking something similar, I put a PR in > yesterday to rework the blueprint section - > https://github.com/apache/brooklyn-docs/pull/168 > > Many thanks > > Duncan > > On 13 April 2017 at 15:37, Alex Heneveld > > wrote: > > > Hi folks- > > // RESEND with images embedded instead of attached PDF (which got > stripped - hopefully images don't!) > > I've been hearing two categories of feedback from people who've > spent time on our website: "I don't get it" and "Sounds > complicated". > > I think the time is right for us to fix this. We can give a > clear, gentle experience, and we can tone down the academic ideas > in favour of real examples, which thanks to recent improvements > are pretty simple. I'm thinking of a few changes: > > * Expand and ground the landing page (currently it's all academic > theory words words words) -- I attach a mock-up of how this could > look in the attached (based on other sites) > * Rework the Getting Started example to be something using bash, > rather than a magic java entity > * Instead of YAML/Java blueprints, call it "Basic Blueprints" > "Advanced Blueprinting", make the "Basic Blueprints" section nice > simpler reference pages, with much of the content moved into > advanced (where the Java items might get buried further) > > What do other people think? Should we have a chat? Say next Fri > 4pm UK ? > > Best > Alex > > > > > > -- Valentin Aitken Software Engineer Cloudsoft Corporation Ltd. www.cloudsoft.io --------------272907951FDCD1158F9719B8--