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From Aled Sage <>
Subject [PROPOSAL] Change app default to require all children to be up
Date Fri, 04 Nov 2016 21:00:57 GMT
Hi all,

TL;DR: I'd like to change the defaults for an app so that it is "down" 
and "on-fire" if any of its children are failed.

_*Current Situation*_
Currently in Brooklyn, it is surprising what values are set for an app's 
"service.isUp" and its "service.state" sensors:
* If any of the app's children are "isUp=true" (or if it has no 
children), then the app sets itself as "isUp=true".
* If any of the children report "state=on_fire", then the app sets 
itself as "state=on_fire".

Note the inconsistency: if one of two children are healthy, then the app 
is "isUp=true && state=on_fire".

This behaviour of "quorum" for children/members is controlled by an 
enricher, which can be easily configured in Java but not in YAML.

We should change the default quorum behaviour for apps, to require all 
of the app's children to be up. I'd argue that is the most common reason 
that it has those children.

We should make this more easily configurable through config keys on the 
app, so one can easily change the defaults. For example, to get the old 

    - type: org.apache.brooklyn.entity.stock.BasicApplication
         quorum.up: atLeastOneUnlessEmpty
         quorum.running: all

Would this change negatively affect any existing apps? Are there more 
use-cases where the default of "atLeastOneUnlessEmpty" is more sensible 
than "all"?

See for an 
implementation of this.


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