Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-brooklyn-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-brooklyn-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD5C8185E0 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76576 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 18:59:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-brooklyn-dev-archive@brooklyn.apache.org Received: (qmail 76539 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2015 18:59:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@brooklyn.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@brooklyn.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@brooklyn.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76527 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2015 18:59:45 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D1BE9C05AD for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.879 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.879 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cloudsoftcorp.com Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PH0DXoJYIOGK for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f53.google.com (mail-wm0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2668D20B89 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so293778784wme.0 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:59:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudsoftcorp.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uHX5AfsPZZNebUK+7Huwv6+h5d28DqDExIqsYLDhcnM=; b=iSWIXpbME0DeEE1fFkLWOGV5KBvy2T3PoKQXGcEgIVANuI+jgMiRkwE+d9Dhrojmpv 3DFM1zO5YGWSqnKz0TWe630A1BDgz3auACCqLFARzZYutM6Q7Y8hXkjOn/RDrwnL1RKA DiHQvTU2n5zSsnTSCT33TIAkKfT4gW4HI82f8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uHX5AfsPZZNebUK+7Huwv6+h5d28DqDExIqsYLDhcnM=; b=YpJz8Fwr450o+otv85nKOp1h3HNEThy/WRtxWR67hU32PvUp4KMXq519lgT5bkgZMv eO073w+tCGF9azoqkTnA6ZyTuG5/duCqXjyrNw0Ei/yeuOC1REJ8AWLmL0BYuYvlpQmE igXrewLGALjYQso3CXprXGmrrj1x3oNYjiwd5IP29kNXaurPwv21AEl86+1oQvTvtYLl YOIFn8ifJtGTw++3mCgriz3p/UwBry+GeGzrODuoKNtKp7w/YUmCqCpAWEqYWLXesnTj BceZEZW7ZTiPPYMqVCHdjg4sz+r9Y14wzBny0InkoSWeMWDfvtXcIRH+xCgKwwedq2V3 41wA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmWhvWmqOWv7hBlE1yhZOzde11TI/JK7MICUI5UndRiZlu1uCxP/wZG5w8QcXRcUuBEERfTRxi6d467UI4eMla9NyWyzfrQeEq3LsXpCNRW0Q56FyiRd8AUtHGVtikqL2H4DRIbgZdDybqLs8OcLemVw1d4fg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.179.8 with SMTP id c8mr10509114wmf.51.1447873181686; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.41.66 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.41.66 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:59:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <564CBBA1.4000101@gmail.com> References: <564A7BA4.1010605@gmail.com> <564B6794.3070800@CloudsoftCorp.com> <564CBBA1.4000101@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:59:41 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Brooklyn graduation From: Alex Heneveld To: dev@brooklyn.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114522faacd4770524d53e98 X-Legal-Virus-Advice: Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by Cloudsoft Corporation Limited in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. X-Legal-Confidentiality: This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. Cloudsoft Corporation Limited does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. X-Legal-Company-Info: Cloudsoft Corporation Limited. Registered in Scotland. Number: SC349230. Registered Office: 13 Dryden Place, Edinburgh, EH9 1RP. --001a114522faacd4770524d53e98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For external relations purposes and as an umbrella should we also have apache/brooklyn ? I tend to think yes. Best Alex On 18 Nov 2015 17:55, "Hadrian Zbarcea" wrote: > So I see a lot of consensus on Alex's proposal with the following > amendment (s/brooklyn/brooklyn-core/): > * apache/brooklyn-core > * apache/brooklyn-ui > * apache/brooklyn-library > > If we can get a consensus on this I don't think we need to go to a vote. I > will address the other comments as direct replies, because I don't see them > as contradictory to this proposal. > > WDYT? > Hadrian > > On 11/17/2015 12:44 PM, Alex Heneveld wrote: > >> >> +1 to removing the large artifacts; it's just stupid having them there. >> >> Personally I would like to see the apache/incubator-brooklyn carved up >> as follows: >> >> * apache/brooklyn >> * apache/brooklyn-ui >> * apache/brooklyn-library >> >> The third one contains all the concrete items, like jboss and tomcat and >> cassandra etc. The UI is the jsgui. >> >> The first one is the main one, with everything else, including CLI and >> REST API, vanilla software process, and jclouds locations and osgi. >> >> >> The only other thing I'm wondering is whether brooklyn-api should be >> separate, and very rarely changing. This would allow us potentially to >> run different versions of brooklyn-* in the same system, using the magic >> of OSGi. >> >> >> WDYT? >> >> Best >> Alex >> >> >> On 17/11/2015 17:03, Richard Downer wrote: >> >>> Hi Hadrian, >>> >>> I don't think there's any need to split the repository (although I've >>> no strong opinions on this, if someone else has an idea). >>> >>> However there has been a long-standing issue with our repository's >>> history - in the dim and distant past, binary artifacts of Tomcat etc. >>> used for testing were committed to the repository. These are long >>> gone, but they still exist in the git history, and everybody is forced >>> to clone these large artifacts. >>> >>> Could we use the graduation migration as an opportunity to rewrite the >>> git history to permanently remove these large artifacts? It'd result >>> in a much quicker clone of the repo for new contributors to Brooklyn. >>> >>> Richard. >>> >>> >>> On 17 November 2015 at 00:58, Hadrian Zbarcea >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Brooklyners, >>>> >>>> The Brooklyn graduation resolution is again on the board agenda. This >>>> time I >>>> paid paranoid attention to details and I hope the stars to be better >>>> aligned. >>>> >>>> Assuming all goes well, there will be a few tasks to take care post >>>> graduation, mostly related to dropping the "incubating" suffix. Part >>>> of that >>>> process it is possible to split the git repository into multiple smaller >>>> ones. It is possible to do it later, but doing it now would be easier >>>> and >>>> more natural, I think. >>>> >>>> Therefore, if anybody has any idea or proposal related to that, speak up >>>> now. In the absence of consensus the status quo will be maintained. I >>>> will >>>> work with infra and try to make the process as smooth as possible for >>>> the >>>> community regardless of which way we decide to go. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Hadrian >>>> >>> >> --001a114522faacd4770524d53e98--