Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8000DFBB for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25563 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jan 2013 00:22:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25547 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jan 2013 00:22:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact bloodhound-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 94086 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2013 22:27:41 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) References: <51002AB6.7060708@wandisco.com> <510044AD.90708@wandisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <510044AD.90708@wandisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4BEDA6F3-7EE8-4273-A54E-A475C559EBF3@apache.org> Cc: "bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A523) From: Dave Fisher Subject: Re: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:24:38 -0800 To: "bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1358980031; bh=GnaHjzGGGI+3hXnwYlG3ArEll9hSZNdVsht60Mw2VQs=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=Pm9ftk6HM1PBhBHD9xY1iA/i9EVAqgobcaavNW9HnjnFLrN9Y8BjequgTvnDcZa6S Jy1dQuGNj9VZk9swuGkV0Ug/mS3Bu+yITnsuJYaDixfstHLkKiLq7UR62vZCCIPfgA an2sKAjctuqGBbpjEFrel/tlxQnOTqvMRtUJjfwfw9vxcxNIE1j8bkLcoW7BNtujoW m/JiU1izf6HyhQVz1U6ldVyFj2lHYVuk2PcMIyM/6ZZ1GihrR+5ZGSvgq8u9EQcVjB hOcNRFNl7pCGlp7q4TKHUP1MO4wTuIOw9YCLM66dAGq5e92SI8P82eh51vPQ1ysDYZ CTAGK8eCtrs3w== X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: > On 23.01.2013 20:45, Joe Dreimann wrote: >> I don't know if it's allowed to combine both votes, but I'm in favour of i= t if it is. >=20 > It's not. IPMC procedures dictate that the project community shall do > everything necessary to produce an Apache release, then the IPMC will > review those results by means of a second release vote. The idea being > that as long as the project is a podling, it's learning the ropes. >=20 > Note that you wouldn't really gain much by going straight to the IPMC, > since that vote thread is initialized with existing mentor votes. >=20 >> In relation to the currently stalled voting, I'd like to propose Gary as a= future IPMC member. Is there a process for this? >=20 > As soon as he becomes an ASF member, he can also become an IPMC member. This is not strictly true. I was an IPMC member first. Please bring that dis= cussion to private. Regards, Dave >=20 >> Also or alternatively, is there a process for recruiting further mentors?= Or is it "simply" a case of picking out potential mentors and asking them? >=20 > It's more or less a matter of asking on the IPMC. Really, though, this > project has enough active mentors, and relying on purely mentor votes > sounds like "cheating". >=20 >=20 > The proper way to avoid blocking on release votes is to graduate. :) > Which I believe this community is ready for. Except for the community > diversity issue, which you're all actively working on. >=20 > I know it's frustrating, but even though I'm typically prepared to cut > through a lot of red tape, I do feel that community diversity is > important. And we all know exactly how diverse this particular community i= s. >=20 > -- Brane >=20 > --=20 > Branko =C4=8Cibej > Director of Subversion | WANdisco | www.wandisco.com >=20