Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 511979B1B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6858 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2012 00:31:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6842 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2012 00:31:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact bloodhound-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6834 invoked by uid 99); 20 Feb 2012 00:31:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:31:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jim.callahan.hsqe@statefarm.com designates 205.242.229.165 as permitted sender) Received: from [205.242.229.165] (HELO bp75avo1.opr.statefarm.org) (205.242.229.165) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:31:53 +0000 Received: from bp75avo1.opr.statefarm.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79801229D44 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:31:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from WPSDGQGM.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG (WPSDGQGM.opr.statefarm.org [10.128.182.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bp75avo1.opr.statefarm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC82229D42 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:31:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from WPSDGQHZ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG (10.128.182.15) by WPSDGQGM.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG (10.128.182.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:31:31 -0700 Received: from WPSDGQGP.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG ([169.254.10.248]) by WPSDGQHZ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG ([169.254.10.136]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:31:30 -0700 From: Jim Callahan To: "bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Bloodhound thoughts Thread-Topic: Bloodhound thoughts Thread-Index: AQHM72BhMeQ8a1ffxEa+ApwKkw8VZJZFAAWA Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:31:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 x-originating-ip: [10.128.226.75] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <96A64BF68F8817448CA7A4B6FD75AB65@statefarm.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1350-6.5.0.1024-18720.003 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TMASE-MatchedRID: fE0JoqABJp3/CzUA+zbGoYoLoibgjVEXjLOy13Cgb4+qvcIF1TcLYCEL i9kGQD/2SqLlu8NtF18EbxGJtEgmf1Y8UD/ZpT9BzAwlZ8w0UGBoFNaNcVdd333hz57t9YhwSMe rUg9us8khSMpzgOAsc/C6ra7lnRerMgyHSBq8jGidVNZaI2n6//aBb5QZDiNW1Smgi3GoWSuphz fHynpucl2yQqSyMEM2TEvqTUpLIR5NfAuy6MOHAXvBWikXzNqDFKliqHKCaOlkWz0ttP/JWUFmw uHkCx4IS1nDhaN/h3txyTXIcLDWHG1yv+64My/eJhFEQZiq2ZQ0AKed0u9fB2ecrqZc3vabxh+n U7TAwgNhBZb/gt8/s7XAM5mLRQKJGesUQyhGzGgD2WXLXdz+Ab4HS0k2HeOowDlgqbx3AzqYZYs HmbaalhJQk/hUzFbCYo0TKOPYfqb6bbZCczd8MrcSTQ9gs2de+vp7eeJli0EzFxuauWrNx2xRVh 7tPdLRncC7Tr25zZbWPWTeO9uIBWfxp/XbL3jPY30JLNwYp2n8UAFSHMBUpi695I94GJtPBx9yd rhei/F0FmiG548gyVZCLGMFc+lI744AM4h7w50= +1 bootstrap +1 breadcrumbs bundled +1 (or more) for better multi-Trac support I really like th idea of the widget-style dashboard elements. Making them part of the macro system is a great idea. jim On 2/19/12 5:43 PM, "Robert Rose" wrote: >Hey all, I was googling around yesterday to see if anyone else was >working on a trac fork and discovered bloodhound. I've always found >it frustrating that the out-of-box experience with trac sucks. To get >trac up to where other issue management systems are you need to do a >fair bit of configuration and play around with some plugins. Not to >mention the UI looks like it came from the 90s, so most >newer-generation folks are immediately put off by it. If you grade >solely on the out-of-box experience, other systems like JIRA win >against trac. This is unfortunate because trac's extensibility and >simplicity (in my opinion anyways) make it a better long-term choice >for issue management. > >Anyways I'm glad others are actively rethinking these aspects of trac. > Before I did my googling yesterday I was playing around with a >bootstrap reskin for trac (hacking directly on the genshi templates), >so I'm especially delighted that you've chosen bootstrap. I haven't >caught up on all of the email archive yet, but I have a few thoughts I >wanted to share, so I apologize in advance if these were already >covered. > > * bootstrap +1 > > * Can email2trac be bundled out-of-box? >https://subtrac.sara.nl/oss/email2trac > > * Can the breadcrumbs plugin be bundled out-of-box? >http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BreadCrumbsNavPlugin > > * I would love it if one of the child / master ticket plugins was >included out of box, but rendered in the UI in a clean way >http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ChildTicketsPlugin > > * Review of historical ticket data is an essential part of our >project management method. We have scripts that mine trac for >historical data and plot it using the google charts API. Tickets are >plotted by state over time, ticket "velocity" (the rates at which they >move through states), etc. It would be great if this was just part of >trac and available as a wiki macro. > > * I like the dashboard/activity views that have been shared but I'm >not clear if these are supposed to be new pages, or new functionality >available as wiki macros? I make a lot of dashboards using trac and >wiki macro queries, it would be nice if these dashboards you're making >were customizable using the same mechanism... can they just be wiki >pages themselves? > > * What's the multiple project strategy? We use trac to host multiple >projects on the same server just using apache redirect rules and the >intertrac plugin. It works very well, but is not easy to >setup/maintain. Would be nice if this was just done for you. > >-robert