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From Olaf Flebbe>
Subject Re: new bigtop website
Date Tue, 17 May 2016 17:17:56 GMT
Hi Cos,

Of course anyone need permission to use trademark logos.

The point is not logos itself. What is the message we want to share ?

Bigtop should not claim that any entity is a downstream user of bigtop. We do not know for
The downstream user itself should agree to be named here. I can live with the section "powered
by" in the current website.
That page has a very differentiated view.  Maybe we can reuse this page optically pimped.

I am very ok if Nate ask entities, if they approve to be named .

Maybe the Mission statement can be made clear:

To provide a generic build system for a vanilla distribution of Apache Hadoop ecosystem projects,
integrating other components early.


> Am 17.05.2016 um 18:58 schrieb Konstantin Boudnik <>:
> Take it with as many graines of salt you want, but I don't think using logos
> from someone's publicly available media kit for the purpose of referring to
> the owner of it, requires any special permissions. But I'm not a lawyer.
> Cos
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 02:02PM, wrote:
>> No official logo approval.  For having clear and concise communication about
>> the project and what it provides to first time visitors feel that will be
>> the most important part of the homepage.  We went through similar
>> conversation bit over a year ago when working through the flyer design and
>> the number one thing in most conversations, and presentation q&a's is
>> usually along lines of "who is using it" and "what do you do with it".   The
>> resounding way to communicate that has been to say "x,y,z use it as a base
>> to build their distributions and custom component versions/packages...".
>> I can take on task of getting approvals, and can add a related/dependent
>> jira for the main site one
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Olaf Flebbe []
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:50 PM
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: new bigtop website
>> Hi Nate,
>> I like the design very much! The big tents are very good!
>> But I would refrain from using the logos in the "powered by" section.  Do we
>> have have permissions to use these trademarks? AFAIK we do not.
>> Olaf
>>> Am 16.05.2016 um 22:12 schrieb
>>> Hello Bigtoppers,
>>> During some downtime I rekindled the effort for new site for the project.
>> I based the initial design on ideas flushed out mid/late last year and
>> borrowing from the bigtop flyer we have been using the past 12+ months at
>> various events, as well as the workshop site/content I setup for some past
>> conference related events.  As such, the content is all in flux, including
>> menu at top, this is meant to get the ball rolling
>>> Initial rev of design and homepage mock can be found here:
>>> It is currently setup as a github pages project.  Given some feedback on
>> the list ways back with asf supporting it, and the great tooling around
>> Jekyll, figured it was easiest for my dev and collaboration efforts.  As we
>> get things finalized we can decide how the group wants to manage/host the
>> new site
>>> I am keeping notes that anyone who is interested in helping on content can
>> add to:
>> Ideas
>>> Most important I feel will be the Getting Started content which should
>> fill in the average user(s) to carry out a lot of common tasks, centralizing
>> the details.
>>> I will update the old jira item with relevant content updates and we can
>> use that for tracking the finer details and delivery.  The rest of this week
>> will be some minor tweaks to design and fixing some cross browser and mobile
>> related layout issues (mobile friendly on day 1 is the goal), as well as
>> starting to flush out the template/framework for getting started content

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