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From jay vyas <jayunit100.apa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Packaging apache* projects?
Date Sun, 01 Mar 2015 05:37:21 GMT
good points ; makes sense to me.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org> wrote:

> [adding user@....]
>
> Sorry for getting on so late...
>
> My take on this is pretty simple: if we can just get any potential
> dependencies we need with  'puppet apply...' - let's do just that. The
> reason
> we are packing groovy - BTW would appreciate the review for BIGTOP-1423
> - is that it wasn't available otherwise.
>
> The moment we start maintaining derby, we:
>  a) we'll have to maintain for a long time
>  b) someone will ask to add postgres, mysql, etc.
>
> I love postgres, but you see my point... I'd say let's rely as much on the
> distro vendors: distos are commodity. All of them. Including Bigtop. That's
> why, I think, we started getting away from being a Hadoop distro project,
> to
> Bigdata/In-memory OSS stack.
>
> Cos
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 05:51PM, jay vyas wrote:
> > Hi folks.     Thanks to @RJ for the seed for this in one of our rambling
> > conversations,  also.....  My question:
> >
> > *** Is it capable/interesting/relevant to bigtop to packaging a broader
> > spectrum of the apache ecosystem   ***  Here some (half baked) rationale
> > for this idea
> >
> > 0 - we recently broadened from the scope of "just hadoop".
> >
> > 1 -  " big data " per se is starting to blend with other layers of the
> > stack, like messaging, databases.  its kind of tricky to draw a line,
> IMO,
> > and will be more tricky going forward.
> >
> > 2 - other projects (i.e. derby, groovy, ...)  are highly synergistic w/
> > bigtop might find a great home here, which is OS neutral and has lots of
> > great tooling .
> >
> > 3 -  gives use scope to do bigger and more interesting things inside
> > bigtop, like deploying an entire full stack data driven environment.
> >
> > not even sure how feasible this is (maybe could partially be done with
> > partnerships with collaboration amongst other packaging communities). but
> > just thought id put the idea out there .
> >
> > --
> > jay vyas
>



-- 
jay vyas

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