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( [63.96.179.78]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm180143wrl.2005.09.11.11.09.25; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <432472D3.3090502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:09:23 -0600 From: Rich Feit User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beehive Developers Subject: Re: v1, maven, pollinate [was: Re: reorganizing netui-blank] References: <4321B4D3.3040902@gmail.com> <4321E494.5040803@gmail.com> <4321E72E.4040103@bea.com> <4321F993.4090808@gmail.com> <43220D49.70602@gmail.com> <4324538F.2090204@gmail.com> <432471FB.7060909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <432471FB.7060909@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I forgot to mention under #2 that having some sort of Beehive support in NetBeans would be great. This means support for building a Beehive project? Rich Feit wrote: >I changed the subject line here, just so this doesn't get lost among the >discussion of netui-blank. Here's my take on these three questions: > >1. I don't think maven-ized samples would be bundled with v1. Adam >Jenkins is contributing the maven plugin (which is much-needed), but I >think that a maven option wouldn't be worked into the distribution >until v1.1 (or whatever the next point release is). That's just my >guess. The reason for this can be found in my answer to #3. :) It >does look like Eddie is working on getting our JARs out on the >repository in time for v1: >http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/beehive-user/200509.mbox/%3ce9ac8354050908212661019f8@mail.gmail.com%3e >. > >2. I agree that the loss of momentum on Pollinate is disappointing, >although I'm still really hopeful that something will appear under >Eclipse eventually. I agree with Adam's statement that this is a >missing piece which would really help carry Beehive forward (by making >it more accessible and also digestible by management types). A >discussion about collaboration with the Pollinate project is probably >something we should have after v1 goes out. > >3. v1. Yes, I would be shocked if we didn't release it this week. This >project model issue is the only one we need to resolve, as far as I >know, and so far everyone's been supportive of it. > >Rich > > >Glauber Adriano Reis wrote: > > > >>I'm happy now, the layout makes its way smothly into NetBeans when you >>import it as an >>external web project. >>I've got 3 questions: >>1 - would maven-ized samples be bundled with V1? If so, I read in the >>mailing list >>about the plugin(I was working on such a thing as well but stoped >>since it had >>been already developed) but I cannot find the plugin or anything >>mentioning it in JIRA. >> >>2 - Such a pity that Pollinate project is dead. What you guys think? >>...the latest >>NeBeans version to be released (v5) will have struts support. I think >>it would be cool >>having some sort of minimal beehive support as well, I'd be very glad >>working on it (since I probably >>wont use WebLogic 9 eclipse plugins) but want you opinion. >> >>3 - Is Beehive V1 due out this week? I'm pretty much anxious... :) >> >> >>Glauber Adriano >> >> >> >> >>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >> >> >> >>>All-- >>> >>> I've got a patch ready which will reorganize the >>>/samples/netui-blank web project from a source-in model >>>like: >>> >>> fooWeb/ >>> Controller.java >>> index.jsp >>> WEB-INF/ >>> web.xml >>> src/ >>> build.xml >>> build.properties >>> Foo.java >>> >>>to a source-peer model like: >>> >>> fooWeb/ >>> build.xml >>> build.properties >>> src/ >>> Foo.java >>> web/ >>> index.jsp >>> Controller.java >>> WEB-INF/ >>> web.xml >>> >>>This brings the OOTB NetUI project model in-line with that prescribed >>>by Tomcat and used in many projects. It's also what Adriano suggested >>>and used for his NetBeans project. >>> >>> We're getting in the last days before 1.0 here, so we need to do >>>two things: >>> >>>1) agree that this is the right thing to do >>>2) review the patch in this bug -- >>>http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEEHIVE-921 >>> >>>Please do both; if you disagree with (1), say so! :) >>> >>>Once / if we agree on this, I'll commit it and take a couple of hours >>>to rework some documentation. And, hopefully we can branch and ship >>>1.0. :) >>> >>>Eddie >>> >>> >>> >>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Sounds great! Leaving netui-samples and netui-jsf seems like the right >>>>thing to hold off for 1.1. >>>> >>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Awesome. I'll make this change for netui-blank but will leave >>>>>netui-jsf and netui-samples for the sake of stability. We can fix >>>>>those for Beehive 1.1. >>>>> >>>>>This would switch the default NetUI project model to something that >>>>>looks like this: >>>>> >>>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/appdev/source.html >>>>> >>>>>which is basically: >>>>> >>>>>fooWebProject/ >>>>> web/ >>>>> src/ >>>>> build.xml >>>>> build.properties >>>>> >>>>>with a build that works like samples/petstoreWeb. >>>>> >>>>>Any other thoughts about doing this? >>>>> >>>>>Eddie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I definitely agree on #2 (if I'm understanding you correctly) -- I >>>>>>think >>>>>>it should support the Tomcat model you're describing. Originally I'd >>>>>>suggested supporting both because netui-blank is in the old project >>>>>>model, so I assumed that this is the only one we would be supporting. >>>>>>So I support making this change... >>>>>> >>>>>>Rich >>>>>> >>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>1) yes, this simply adds a convenience target to >>>>>>>beehive-imports.xml. >>>>>>>It doesn't attempt to fix the validation problem discussed >>>>>>>earlier -- >>>>>>>depending on how it's fixed, that might be an SVN-side issue with >>>>>>>building the distribution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>2) I agree that we are moving away from the WEB-INF/src project >>>>>>>model >>>>>>>and onto the Tomcat model where web/ and src/ are peers. This >>>>>>>target >>>>>>>certainly could support both models, but it's just easier to have it >>>>>>>support the one Tomcat prescribes that is widely used and is easily >>>>>>>supported in various IDEs. We can document how to setup a project >>>>>>>with source-in-webapp. If there was enough interest, we could make >>>>>>>this change now...it only affects netui-samples, netui-blank, and >>>>>>>netui-jsf. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I see - so this isn't the complex part of the change we were >>>>>>>>talking >>>>>>>>about. This is simply adding an ant target to >>>>>>>>beehive-imports.xml. It >>>>>>>>seems like a good addition, but one question I have is whether >>>>>>>>we should >>>>>>>>be supporting different project models with something like >>>>>>>>this. Seems >>>>>>>>like we're moving away from a source-under-web-content model. >>>>>>>>What do >>>>>>>>you think? >>>>>>>>Rich >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Here's the Ant that will do this; it patches >>>>>>>>>trunk/user/beehive-imports.xml and can be run as: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $> ant -f beehive-imports.xml new.netui.webapp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>which will prompt for a destination directory for the project. >>>>>>>>>Or, it >>>>>>>>>can be run like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $> ant -f beehive-imports.xml new.netui.webapp -Dwebapp.dir >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>which will skp the prompt since "webapp.dir" has already been >>>>>>>>>provided. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I think this will be *really* useful and less error-prone than the >>>>>>>>>alternative. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thoughts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> addproperty="webapp.dir"/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Created a NetUI-enabled in ${webapp.dir} >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Gotcha. As far as the docs, I've got a placeholder in the >>>>>>>>>>netui/projects.xml doc already that describes the cp / ant -f >>>>>>>>>>step. >>>>>>>>>>So, that part is easy. ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Patch forthcoming... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Oh, I just meant we should take a week to have people play >>>>>>>>>>>with it >>>>>>>>>>>if we >>>>>>>>>>>put it in for 1.0, that's all. I think we'd want to get it >>>>>>>>>>>into the >>>>>>>>>>>docs, too, especially where there are instructions for copying >>>>>>>>>>>netui-blank, etc. What do you think about that? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I'd definitely take a look at the diff, though, even if it's >>>>>>>>>>>something >>>>>>>>>>>we hold until v1.1. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Rich >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah -- I don't think it would take a week (probably just a >>>>>>>>>>>>couple >>>>>>>>>>>>of hours), but it's a little different than how we do things >>>>>>>>>>>>right now >>>>>>>>>>>>because we need to support two scenarios: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>- create a new webapp >>>>>>>>>>>>- inject the runtime files (JARs / resources) into the samples >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>We've got the latter and could easily add the former. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>But, we'll get very little test mileage on it in the near >>>>>>>>>>>>term. I >>>>>>>>>>>>can take a crack at it and see what you think of the diff... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Definitely, this would be a great thing to have. I have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>local >>>>>>>>>>>>>script >>>>>>>>>>>>>that does exactly this -- in retrospect, this should have made >>>>>>>>>>>>>me think >>>>>>>>>>>>>of an ant target. I think it's something that we should do >>>>>>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>>>>>1.1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>unless we want to delay the release for a week or so... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's complicated. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>We really need a target that can "seed" a Beehive webapp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>all of the validation config files, runtime JARs, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>NetUI URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>addressable resources. Today, this is done using a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>command like: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cp -rf samples/netui-blank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>ant -f ant/beehive-runtime.xml deploy.beehive.webapp.runtime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Dwebapp.dir= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>If, for example, you just do the latter, you'll end up with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>webapp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that has the runtime but no web.xml or validation config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>files. And, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that's kind of bad... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Would be *very* nice to have a target that just does: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>ant -f beehive-imports.xml new.beehive.webapp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Dproject.dir=... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It could even prompt for the project.dir -- kind of like a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wizard in Ant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>We could do this for 1.0, but it's not an insignificant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>change. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's *definitely* something we need for 1.1... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, if it's complicated at all, I agree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daryl Olander wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+1 to doing the real fix post 1.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take it back...this isn't a straightforward thing to fix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unfortunately because it affects the Ant used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>provide the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>runtime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in both the distribution and SVN builds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It wouldn't be hard to change it, but if we're going to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>should add the beehive-netui-validator-config.xml file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>consider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>adding web.xml) to those as well... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I agree (now) having them checked in is the right thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unless we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>want to tackle the bigger problem of copying all of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>config files. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And, I'd rather ship 1.0 and fix that later. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 9/9/05, Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OK, I certainly don't have an objection to that... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Right, it doesn't *have* to happen now, but doing it now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ensures >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that we're consistent. So, I'm going to go ahead and fix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while you're >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting the compiler change in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rich Feit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I haven't started it -- it doesn't seem like anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that has to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>into v1, right? Just checking. I did update the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>checked-in files to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the right version -- this is just the longer-term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to ensure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this doesn't happen again... :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie O'Neil wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rich-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Have you started fixing BEEHIVE-914 yet? If not, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>let me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>know and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll take that one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eddie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> > > >