Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-beehive-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 20660 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2005 22:36:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 22:36:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 87598 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2005 22:35:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-beehive-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87543 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2005 22:35:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact beehive-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Beehive Developers" Delivered-To: mailing list beehive-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87528 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2005 22:35:58 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of richfeit@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.196 as permitted sender) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:53 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so6459nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VtfrOZ95ruDX4yQECFXF6RguXBxaVkj+nkWHP3LB3cWeQc59+kn3A4QEO0AgGS2WvKJiDN4yfpkeBUIHvDheU1jQN6w013y0tHLV0zFohpu0TBlqxmuO7Fk3TPdqaA2gLSnUYc017tC5KTFbvkpttrsvEBNSDb2Gn/aG1cYZbmM= Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr3745189nzh; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.36.33.142? ([63.96.162.1]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 19sm2358886nzp.2005.06.14.15.35.38; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42AF5BB5.6000001@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:35:33 -0600 From: Rich Feit User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beehive Developers Subject: Re: tags versus branches for releases References: <55c19420050614143128fab10f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I personally would get a warm fuzzy from something like this: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/beehive/tags/... But... how about we wait to see if anyone ever asks for this (or appears really confused by us not having it) on beehive-user? Rich Eddie ONeil wrote: > We can certainly create tags for releases, though in SVN a tag and a >branch are the same thing. See: > > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/svn-book.html#svn-ch-4-sect-6 > >So, the beehive/branches/v1/m1 is going to be exactly the same as >beehive/tags/v1/m1 except that the former (at least today) will have a >few additional documentation changes since this is where the doc is >published for the v1m1 release -- Steve tends to fix a few doc issues >after we release. > >Any code changes that go into either are disallowed and will be backed out. > >Thus, it's a different name for the same thing, but if there's demand >for tags, it's easy enough to create them. > >Eddie > > > > >On 6/14/05, Jeremiah Johnson wrote: > > >>Beehive does not currently use tags in SVN. This isn't a big issue, >>but I think that the infrastructure isn't complete without at least >>discussing it. I don't think that there is a standard in Apache for >>tagging a release, so it seems that it is up to the individual >>projects. >> >>As a user of Beehive, it would allow me to sleep better to know that >>there are tags on each release. If my well-adopted and impressive >>applications run into a critical defect, I would know that the source >>is easily accessible via a tag and a fix could be made without me >>having to upgrade. >> >>Because of SVN's stability in renaming and moving files, it seems that >>tags offer less value than in other source control systems. In fact, >>since SVN doesn't force tags to be read-only, it almost seems that >>tags provide no value at all. I can't really identify any value >>except that I feel better with tags. >> >>I see that other projects in Apache (i.e. Axis 2, Geronimo, and >>MyFaces) use tags - so maybe Beehive should just do as they do :) >>Maybe this is a reason to tag. >> >>I suggest that http://wiki.apache.org/beehive/Release_Process#head-7c5508c82f9623d14b315dac319c53425915e244 >>be updated to be more explicit about branching (as happened in v1m1) >>and then creating a tag from the branch after a successful vote >>(didn't happen in v1m1). >> >>- jeremiah >> >> >> > > >