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From Richard Feit <>
Subject Re: planning for future beehive releases and wsm
Date Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:57:49 GMT
This sounds like a good plan to get us on moving on a stable version of 
NetUI/Controls.  Given the discussion in the Incubator list, the word 
"Incubator" should be *part* of the name of this release, to avoid any 
impression that this is official ASF code.  This is just a stable set of 
code that we can use to attract dev interest, and to get people involved 
in our community in general.

If we're all in agreement, there are two things we should do fairly quickly:
    - Set up a JIRA category, and move bugs (even resolved ones) as 
    - Figure out where code for this release lives (where/when to branch).

Any other thoughts about this?


Daryl Olander wrote:

>I'll give the base plan a +1...
>I think we should continue to produce a WSM/Service control
>distribution, that will roll into a real release of Beehive once the
>TCK is final...
>On 6/7/05, Steven Tocco <> wrote:
>>I think this is a sound plan.  It allows us to keep momentum and gets
>>good bits to people early and often.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Eddie ONeil []
>>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:30 PM
>>To: Beehive Developers
>>Subject: planning for future beehive releases and wsm
>>  Now that we've got a solid milestone out for Controls + NetUI + WSM,
>>I'd like to suggest that we start thinking about what goes into our
>>near-term releases.
>>  To me, the most pressing near-term priority is getting a more
>>"official" release of NetUI and Controls available to interested users
>>-- call this a 1.0 if you will.  :)
>>  Currently, we're prevented from doing a Beehive release that
>>includes WSM and calling it something more official than "milestone"
>>because of the issues around releasing a JSR implementation (181)
>>before that JSR is final.
>>  My personal feeling is that Controls and NetUI are 1.0 quality
>>(modulo a few bugs that have come up which we could fix pretty
>>quickly) and that I'd rather not hold up their release because WSM is
>>waiting for a JSR to complete.
>>  Thus, what would folks think of doing releases with Controls + NetUI
>>and keeping WSM and the web service control out of these releases
>>until JSR 181 is final and WSM has passed the TCK?
>>  This has two benefits:
>>1) Controls + NetUI can be released as a 1.0 (or something similar,
>>depending on what we're allowed to do while still in the Incubator)
>>2) WSM and the web service control can continue to undergo active
>>development before starting the effort to pass the TCK
>>Note, this *does not* remove WSM from Beehive -- just keeps it from
>>any official-ish 1.0 release until it's passed the TCK.  Once that has
>>happened, we can fold it back into the regular Beehive release cycle.
>>And, in the interim, it can still be available via nightlies or some
>>similar manner.
>>Thoughts about this?
>>If there's enough interest after we've discussed this for a while, we
>>can spin-up a vote to do a 1.0 with just Controls + NetUI.

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