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From: Yihua Fang <fang.yihua.eric@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:43:52 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] [DISCUSSION] Remove support for Java 7
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+1
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:38 AM Steve Anderson <steve@maestro.io> wrote:

> +1
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 09:31, Aleksandr <aleksandr.vl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> 17. okt 2017 7:17 PM kirjutas kuup=C3=A4eval "Isma=C3=ABl Mej=C3=ADa" <ie=
mejia@gmail.com
> >:
>
> We have discussed recently in the developer mailing list about the
> idea of removing support for Java 7 on Beam. There are multiple
> reasons for this:
>
> - Java 7 has not received public updates for almost two years and most
> companies are moving / have already moved to Java 8.
> - A good amount of the systems Beam users rely on have decided to drop
> Java 7 support, e.g. Spark, Flink, Elasticsearch, even Hadoop plans to
> do it on version 3.
> - Most Big data distributions and Cloud managed Spark/Hadoop services
> have already moved to Java 8.
> - Recent versions of core libraries Beam uses are moving to be Java 8
> only (or mostly), e.g. Guava, Google Auto, etc.
> - Java 8 has some nice features that can make Beam code nicer e.g.
> lambdas, streams.
>
> Considering that Beam is a =E2=80=98recent=E2=80=99 project we expect use=
rs to be
> already using Java 8. However we wanted first to ask the opinion of
> the Beam users on this subject. It could be the case that some of the
> users are still dealing with some old cluster running on Java 7 or
> have another argument to keep the Java 7 compatibility.
>
> So, please vote:
> +1 Yes, go ahead and move Beam support to Java 8.
>  0 Do whatever you want. I don=E2=80=99t have a preference.
> -1 Please keep Java 7 compatibility (if possible add your argument to
> keep supporting for Java 7).
>
>
>

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+1<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9=
:38 AM Steve Anderson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:steve@maestro.io">steve@maestro=
.io</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto=
"><div>+1<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div><br>=
On Oct 17, 2017, at 09:31, Aleksandr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aleksandr.vl@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">aleksandr.vl@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div>+1<br><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">17. okt 2017 7:17 PM kirjutas =
kuup=C3=A4eval &quot;Isma=C3=ABl Mej=C3=ADa&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:iem=
ejia@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">iemejia@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br type=3D"att=
ribution"><blockquote class=3D"m_2873759456511460654quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We have discussed r=
ecently in the developer mailing list about the<br>
idea of removing support for Java 7 on Beam. There are multiple<br>
reasons for this:<br>
<br>
- Java 7 has not received public updates for almost two years and most<br>
companies are moving / have already moved to Java 8.<br>
- A good amount of the systems Beam users rely on have decided to drop<br>
Java 7 support, e.g. Spark, Flink, Elasticsearch, even Hadoop plans to<br>
do it on version 3.<br>
- Most Big data distributions and Cloud managed Spark/Hadoop services<br>
have already moved to Java 8.<br>
- Recent versions of core libraries Beam uses are moving to be Java 8<br>
only (or mostly), e.g. Guava, Google Auto, etc.<br>
- Java 8 has some nice features that can make Beam code nicer e.g.<br>
lambdas, streams.<br>
<br>
Considering that Beam is a =E2=80=98recent=E2=80=99 project we expect users=
 to be<br>
already using Java 8. However we wanted first to ask the opinion of<br>
the Beam users on this subject. It could be the case that some of the<br>
users are still dealing with some old cluster running on Java 7 or<br>
have another argument to keep the Java 7 compatibility.<br>
<br>
So, please vote:<br>
+1 Yes, go ahead and move Beam support to Java 8.<br>
=C2=A00 Do whatever you want. I don=E2=80=99t have a preference.<br>
-1 Please keep Java 7 compatibility (if possible add your argument to<br>
keep supporting for Java 7).<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>
</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>

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