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From Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Discuss] Ideas for Apache Beam presence in social media
Date Wed, 05 Jun 2019 04:55:38 GMT
Bringing the PMC's conclusion back to this list, we are happy to start with
the following arrangement:

 - Doc/spreadsheet/etc readable by dev@ (aka the public), writable by some
group of contributors to set up a queue of news
 - Any member of PMC approves and executes the posts, with enough time
elapsing to consider it lazy consensus

Any mistake transcribing this conclusion is my own. And of course nothing
is permanent, but we try and iterate.

Kenn

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizhamal@google.com>
wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I have created a spreadsheet where people can suggest tweets [1]. It
> contains a couple of tweets that have been tweeted as examples. Also, there
> are a couple others that I will ask PMC members to review in the next few
> days.
>
> I have also created a blog post[2] to invite community members to
> participate by proposing tweets / retweets.
>
> Does this look OK to everyone? I’d love to try it out and see if it drives
> engagement in the community. If not we can always change the processes.
>
> Thanks,
> aizhamal
>
> [1] s.apache.org/beam-tweets
> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/8747
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for taking on this work!
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'd like to pilot this if that's okay by everyone. I'll set up a
>>> spreadsheet, write a blog post publicizing it, and perhaps send out a
>>> tweet. We can improve the process later with tools if necessary.
>>>
>>> Thanks all and have a great weekend!
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great idea.
>>>>
>>>> Austin - point well taken about whether the PMC really has to
>>>> micro-manage here. The stakes are potentially very high, but so are the
>>>> stakes for code and website changes.
>>>>
>>>> I know that comdev votes authoring privileges to people who are not
>>>> committers, but they are not speaking on behalf of comdev but under their
>>>> own name.
>>>>
>>>> Let's definitely find a way to be effective on social media.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM Maximilian Michels <mxm@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great idea. I think it would help Beam to be more prominent
>>>>> on
>>>>> social media.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to discuss this also on the private@ mailing list but I don't
>>>>> see anything standing in the way if the PMC always gets to approve the
>>>>> proposed social media postings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could even imagine that the PMC gives rights to a Beam community
>>>>> member to post in their name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21.05.19 03:09, Austin Bennett wrote:
>>>>> > Is PMC definitely in charge of this (approving, communication
>>>>> channel,
>>>>> > etc)?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There could even be a more concrete pull-request-like function even
>>>>> for
>>>>> > things like tweets (to minimize cut/paste operations)?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I remember a bit of a mechanism having been proposed some time ago
>>>>> (in
>>>>> > another circumstance), though doesn't look like it made it terribly
>>>>> far:
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.redhenlab.org/home/the-cognitive-core-research-topics-in-red-hen/the-barnyard/-slick-tweeting
>>>>> > (I haven't otherwise seen such functionality).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>> > <mailto:robert@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     +1
>>>>> >     As a twitter user, I like this idea.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 15:18, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>> >     <aizhamal@google.com <mailto:aizhamal@google.com>>
wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         Hello everyone,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         What does the community think of making Apache Beam’s
social
>>>>> >         media presence more active and more community driven?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         The Slack and StackOverflow for Apache Beam offer pretty
nice
>>>>> >         support, but we still could utilize Twitter & LinkedIn
>>>>> better to
>>>>> >         share more interesting Beam news. For example, we could
>>>>> tweet to
>>>>> >         welcome new committers, announce new features consistently,
>>>>> >         share and recognize contributions, promote events and
>>>>> meetups,
>>>>> >         share other news that are relevant to Beam, big data, etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         I understand that PMC members may not have time to do
>>>>> curation,
>>>>> >         moderation and creation of content; so I was wondering if
we
>>>>> >         could create a spreadsheet where community members could
>>>>> propose
>>>>> >         posts with publishing dates, and let somebody to filter,
>>>>> >         moderate, and manage it; then send to a PMC member for
>>>>> publication.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         I would love to help where I can in this regard. I’ve
had
>>>>> some
>>>>> >         experience doing social media elsewhere in the past.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         Best
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         Aizhamal
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>

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