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From Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Discuss] Ideas for Apache Beam presence in social media
Date Thu, 06 Jun 2019 17:32:25 GMT
With the spreadsheet in http://s.apache.org/beam-tweets, anyone can propose
tweets. I will check it every few days, and ping/tag PMC members to review
tweets and publish. Does that sound fine?
If you have ideas on how to make the process better, please let me know.

Thanks,
Aizhamal

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:10 AM Thomas Weise <thw@apache.org> wrote:

> +1
>
> What would be the mechanism to notify the PMC that there is something to
> review?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Bringing the PMC's conclusion back to this list, we are happy to start
>> with the following arrangement:
>>
>>  - Doc/spreadsheet/etc readable by dev@ (aka the public), writable by
>> some group of contributors to set up a queue of news
>>  - Any member of PMC approves and executes the posts, with enough time
>> elapsing to consider it lazy consensus
>>
>> Any mistake transcribing this conclusion is my own. And of course nothing
>> is permanent, but we try and iterate.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> I have created a spreadsheet where people can suggest tweets [1]. It
>>> contains a couple of tweets that have been tweeted as examples. Also, there
>>> are a couple others that I will ask PMC members to review in the next few
>>> days.
>>>
>>> I have also created a blog post[2] to invite community members to
>>> participate by proposing tweets / retweets.
>>>
>>> Does this look OK to everyone? I’d love to try it out and see if it
>>> drives engagement in the community. If not we can always change the
>>> processes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> aizhamal
>>>
>>> [1] s.apache.org/beam-tweets
>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/8747
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking on this work!
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>> aizhamal@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to pilot this if that's okay by everyone. I'll set up a
>>>>> spreadsheet, write a blog post publicizing it, and perhaps send out a
>>>>> tweet. We can improve the process later with tools if necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all and have a great weekend!
>>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Austin - point well taken about whether the PMC really has to
>>>>>> micro-manage here. The stakes are potentially very high, but so are
the
>>>>>> stakes for code and website changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that comdev votes authoring privileges to people who are not
>>>>>> committers, but they are not speaking on behalf of comdev but under
their
>>>>>> own name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's definitely find a way to be effective on social media.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM Maximilian Michels <mxm@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a great idea. I think it would help Beam to be more
>>>>>>> prominent on
>>>>>>> social media.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to discuss this also on the private@ mailing list but
I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> see anything standing in the way if the PMC always gets to approve
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> proposed social media postings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could even imagine that the PMC gives rights to a Beam community
>>>>>>> member to post in their name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21.05.19 03:09, Austin Bennett wrote:
>>>>>>> > Is PMC definitely in charge of this (approving, communication
>>>>>>> channel,
>>>>>>> > etc)?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > There could even be a more concrete pull-request-like function
>>>>>>> even for
>>>>>>> > things like tweets (to minimize cut/paste operations)?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I remember a bit of a mechanism having been proposed some
time ago
>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>> > another circumstance), though doesn't look like it made
it
>>>>>>> terribly far:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> http://www.redhenlab.org/home/the-cognitive-core-research-topics-in-red-hen/the-barnyard/-slick-tweeting
>>>>>>> > (I haven't otherwise seen such functionality).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>>>> > <mailto:robert@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     +1
>>>>>>> >     As a twitter user, I like this idea.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 15:18, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>> >     <aizhamal@google.com <mailto:aizhamal@google.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         Hello everyone,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         What does the community think of making Apache Beam’s
>>>>>>> social
>>>>>>> >         media presence more active and more community driven?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         The Slack and StackOverflow for Apache Beam offer
pretty
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> >         support, but we still could utilize Twitter &
LinkedIn
>>>>>>> better to
>>>>>>> >         share more interesting Beam news. For example, we
could
>>>>>>> tweet to
>>>>>>> >         welcome new committers, announce new features consistently,
>>>>>>> >         share and recognize contributions, promote events
and
>>>>>>> meetups,
>>>>>>> >         share other news that are relevant to Beam, big
data, etc.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         I understand that PMC members may not have time
to do
>>>>>>> curation,
>>>>>>> >         moderation and creation of content; so I was wondering
if
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> >         could create a spreadsheet where community members
could
>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>> >         posts with publishing dates, and let somebody to
filter,
>>>>>>> >         moderate, and manage it; then send to a PMC member
for
>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         I would love to help where I can in this regard.
I’ve had
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> >         experience doing social media elsewhere in the past.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         Best
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >         Aizhamal
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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