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From Thomas Weise <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Discuss] Ideas for Apache Beam presence in social media
Date Wed, 05 Jun 2019 11:10:14 GMT
+1

What would be the mechanism to notify the PMC that there is something to
review?


On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:

> Bringing the PMC's conclusion back to this list, we are happy to start
> with the following arrangement:
>
>  - Doc/spreadsheet/etc readable by dev@ (aka the public), writable by
> some group of contributors to set up a queue of news
>  - Any member of PMC approves and executes the posts, with enough time
> elapsing to consider it lazy consensus
>
> Any mistake transcribing this conclusion is my own. And of course nothing
> is permanent, but we try and iterate.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizhamal@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have created a spreadsheet where people can suggest tweets [1]. It
>> contains a couple of tweets that have been tweeted as examples. Also, there
>> are a couple others that I will ask PMC members to review in the next few
>> days.
>>
>> I have also created a blog post[2] to invite community members to
>> participate by proposing tweets / retweets.
>>
>> Does this look OK to everyone? I’d love to try it out and see if it
>> drives engagement in the community. If not we can always change the
>> processes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> aizhamal
>>
>> [1] s.apache.org/beam-tweets
>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/8747
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for taking on this work!
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizhamal@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to pilot this if that's okay by everyone. I'll set up a
>>>> spreadsheet, write a blog post publicizing it, and perhaps send out a
>>>> tweet. We can improve the process later with tools if necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all and have a great weekend!
>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Austin - point well taken about whether the PMC really has to
>>>>> micro-manage here. The stakes are potentially very high, but so are the
>>>>> stakes for code and website changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that comdev votes authoring privileges to people who are not
>>>>> committers, but they are not speaking on behalf of comdev but under their
>>>>> own name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's definitely find a way to be effective on social media.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM Maximilian Michels <mxm@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a great idea. I think it would help Beam to be more prominent
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> social media.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to discuss this also on the private@ mailing list but I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> see anything standing in the way if the PMC always gets to approve
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> proposed social media postings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could even imagine that the PMC gives rights to a Beam community
>>>>>> member to post in their name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21.05.19 03:09, Austin Bennett wrote:
>>>>>> > Is PMC definitely in charge of this (approving, communication
>>>>>> channel,
>>>>>> > etc)?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There could even be a more concrete pull-request-like function
even
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > things like tweets (to minimize cut/paste operations)?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I remember a bit of a mechanism having been proposed some time
ago
>>>>>> (in
>>>>>> > another circumstance), though doesn't look like it made it terribly
>>>>>> far:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://www.redhenlab.org/home/the-cognitive-core-research-topics-in-red-hen/the-barnyard/-slick-tweeting
>>>>>> > (I haven't otherwise seen such functionality).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:robert@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     +1
>>>>>> >     As a twitter user, I like this idea.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 15:18, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >     <aizhamal@google.com <mailto:aizhamal@google.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Hello everyone,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         What does the community think of making Apache Beam’s
social
>>>>>> >         media presence more active and more community driven?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         The Slack and StackOverflow for Apache Beam offer pretty
>>>>>> nice
>>>>>> >         support, but we still could utilize Twitter & LinkedIn
>>>>>> better to
>>>>>> >         share more interesting Beam news. For example, we could
>>>>>> tweet to
>>>>>> >         welcome new committers, announce new features consistently,
>>>>>> >         share and recognize contributions, promote events and
>>>>>> meetups,
>>>>>> >         share other news that are relevant to Beam, big data,
etc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         I understand that PMC members may not have time to do
>>>>>> curation,
>>>>>> >         moderation and creation of content; so I was wondering
if we
>>>>>> >         could create a spreadsheet where community members could
>>>>>> propose
>>>>>> >         posts with publishing dates, and let somebody to filter,
>>>>>> >         moderate, and manage it; then send to a PMC member for
>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         I would love to help where I can in this regard. I’ve
had
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> >         experience doing social media elsewhere in the past.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Best
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Aizhamal
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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