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From "Sam McVeety (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (BEAM-758) Per-step, per-execution nonce
Date Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:25:58 GMT


Sam McVeety commented on BEAM-758:

[] I'm not sure of another mechanism that would supply this.  It could
hav @Hidden (etc.) annotations and admonishments that only Transform authors should use it.

> Per-step, per-execution nonce
> -----------------------------
>                 Key: BEAM-758
>                 URL:
>             Project: Beam
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: sdk-java-core
>    Affects Versions: Not applicable
>            Reporter: Daniel Halperin
>            Assignee: Sam McVeety
> In the forthcoming runner API, a user will be able to save a pipeline to JSON and then
run it repeatedly.
> Many pieces of code (e.g., BigQueryIO.Read or Write) rely on a single random value (nonce).
These values are typically generated at apply time, so that they are deterministic (don't
change across retries of DoFns) and global (are the same across all workers).
> However, once the runner API lands the existing code would result in the same nonce being
reused across jobs. Other possible solutions:
> * Generate nonce in {{Create(1) | ParDo}} then use this as a side input. Should work,
as along as side inputs are actually checkpointed. But does not work for {{BoundedSource}}.
> * If a nonce is only needed for the lifetime of one bundle, can be generated in {{startBundle}}
and used in {{finishBundle}} [or {{tearDown}}].
> * Add some context somewhere that lets user code access unique step name, and somehow
generate a nonce consistently e.g. by hashing. Will usually work, but this is similarly not
available to sources.
> Another Q: I'm not sure we have a good way to generate nonces in unbounded pipelines
-- we probably need one. This would enable us to, e.g., use {{BigQueryIO.Write}} in an unbounded
pipeline [if we had, e.g., exactly-once triggering per window]. Or generalizing to multiple

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