Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-batchee-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-batchee-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A01711865B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28686 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2015 18:17:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-batchee-dev-archive@batchee.apache.org Received: (qmail 28658 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2015 18:17:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@batchee.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@batchee.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@batchee.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28623 invoked by uid 99); 13 Oct 2015 18:17:30 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D23201A2975 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.898 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.898 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20H4dBAppEix for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id E078B206A6 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbif5 with SMTP id if5so5270444igb.1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:17:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=uMyUIKx4DrAkHk+ZG8V0BknQ82vl8eTmn5xfQjPBoGQ=; b=tBDa22m95ItMFrqI/8zAgDiMH8yltunAUiZRqYajlF5W5TX9JJP0EwgnVPf0+tfEMq 0QDfSoevlHVNJ4/DPnoYVFimKPb1Wx14elKEByT9ehItaxpPY3zbM+DLE+Es//oT/6N1 EBZUqhEGOUfhUAJgh/HC/t/ebJnWGX2TalGOtXaiT8gd/vNrvh8kv6smOBAluuEa/I0q 6xIiiR6WMotYtdZfhndifR/FRE1irV9cB/iKsCXDxHiffaGI2ygADDtJoaYqz+qCo0J4 Z4oFA0vNQQstM8xJYsVI/zPVrzub0OvLn5pxe9sYhyuLuc52ZRkgfMwPYphYNAhWZBNC d2+A== X-Received: by 10.50.142.36 with SMTP id rt4mr11429538igb.7.1444760240796; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:17:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.11.200 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:16:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20151005141714.2700B3A1F29@svn01-us-west.apache.org> <0F24CB48-E468-4AB4-9881-64D7A9D10BDF@yahoo.de> From: Ted Dunning Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2015 ([ppmc]) To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Cc: BatchEE Dev BatchEE Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3b426f04e32052200749f --001a11c3b426f04e32052200749f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It isn't an unforgiving stance. It is just that it isn't very OK to let this slide. A podling has 3 months to write this report. It shouldn't be a surprise that it is coming back around. Much of the data can be pulled semi-automatically. So it isn't a big deal to do this. And it provides a very important check that the project is still ticking over. Projects that repeatedly fail to produce timely reports are commonly projects in trouble. It is better to push a bit and find out which projects those are. One key symptom of trouble is if one person is doing everything and that was exactly what I probed for. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Tim Williams wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > It isn't OK. It may have to happen, but it isn't really OK. > > Looks like this got written, but I'm not sure why such an unforgiving > stance - this happens fairly often on TLPs and the board is always > gracious and understanding. > > Thanks, > --tim > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --001a11c3b426f04e32052200749f--