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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:29:00 -0800 (PST)
From: "M.Khaled" <mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com>
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Hi Sietse,
   
  I red the article of the first link and I noticed he is using a class called IBMSOAPFactory to create element from XML string.I tried to try this example but failed to find the jar file for this class.Do you know where I can find it or if there is any equivalent open source class?
   
  Best Regards,
  Mohamed. 

sietsenicolaas.tenhoeve@bt.com wrote:
  Hi Mohamed,

I advice to use strong typed wsdl files. I hope you are familiar with
strong vs. loose type languages? (i.e. java (strong) vs. php (loose))

I think the following links will provide enough information:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ws-tip-xsdcaution.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-loosevstrong.ht
ml

I agree almost complete with both articles that strong typed definitions
are the way to go. This because it minimizes the interpretation and
maximizes the intend of the service. The articles are pointing that out
with good examples imho!

Sietse


________________________________

From: M.Khaled [mailto:mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 21 November 2007 13:28
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: Urgent


Hi Sietse,

I am new to web service.So I am asking how can I adjust the wsdl file
as you adviced me?

Thanks,
Mohamed

sietsenicolaas.tenhoeve@bt.com wrote:

Hi Mohamed,

In my opinion the wsdl definition is not really a definition. It
specifies that it will receive a string. But it doesn't specify
the
meaning of it (i.e. xml, xml encoded as string). Therefore your
wsdl is
loosely defined and this gives freedom to the implementer to
interpret
it the way he wants. This results in unexpected behaviour.

My advice is to adjust the wsdl and make a strict definition of
the
messages. This enforces the client to use the well specified
description
and gives less possibility for an own interpretation.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,
Sietse

________________________________

From: M.Khaled [mailto:mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 21 November 2007 12:52
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Urgent


Paul

You think the server should decode the received string before
parsing
it, to reconvert the special charcters like '< and > to '<' and
'>' ?


Mohamed

Paul Fremantle wrote:

Mohamed

Now I'm confused. The WSDL defines a string. That says that the
server is expecting a string. So if that string is going to an
XML, then
it *should* be encoded, because the datatype of the element is
string
not xml. 

If the server was expecting un-encoded XML then the WSDL should
say:


The client is doing the right thing (at least as far as the WSDL
says) in encoding the XML with < etc. 

Paul


On Nov 21, 2007 11:27 AM, M.Khaled
wrote:


Hi Paul,

-This mail contains attached WSDL file which I used to
create the client by axis.
-And About the way I am creating the XML that I am
sending it's similar to the foolowing: 

class Main{
String xml="text";
Request req=new Request();
req.setAttr(xml); 
Sender sender=new Sender();
sender.send(req);
}

class Request{
String attr=null;
getAttr(){
return attr;
}
setAttr(String s){ 
attr=s;
}

class Sender{
public Response send(Request req) {
Response res=(Response) call.invoke(req);
return res;
}
}

Paul Fremantle wrote: 

Mohamed

The server is expecting it in XML form not
string form.

Can you please post the WSDL. Also please
explain how you are creating the XML that you are sending. 

Paul


On Nov 21, 2007 10:41 AM, M.Khaled
wrote:


First of all Thanks a lot for your quick
response.Second I just want to tell you how the scenario going
in here:
(1)I am just working in the client side
(meaning I just created the client by axis WSDL2JAVA command by
passing
the WSDL file to it). 

(2)And I have to set ant attribute value
which is of type String to a specific object and this value is
xml
elements but in a string representation.

(3)This specific object will be passed
to the invoke method of the Call object. 

(4)In the server side (which is out of
my work scope, I am just using the URL for it and know nothing
else
about it) it is expecting that this value I passed is xml in a
string
representation. 

(5)So I tried your solution for base 64
encoding but the output was something like this:

HJvc3BlY3Q+ICBpZClJzs 
and the server can't parse this form
cause it is expecting that form:
text

(6)And axis is generating this output: 
text

and the server can't parse this form.

That's the point I am still sticking in.

If you have any other solution please
advice. 

Thanks,
Mohamed. 

"Hoda, Nadeem [USA]" <
hoda_nadeem@bah.com > wrote: 


If it is something very urgent,
the easiest way is to base 64 encode the XML and pass the
encoded string
which is guaranteed to have no special characters. 

For example (server-side): 


import
org.apache.xerces.impl.dv.util.Base64;

....
//send this string 
String encodedXML =
Base64.encode(rawXMLString);
....


Otherwise you can use
attachments, but that is not an "urgent" scenario solution. 

Thanks, 

Nadeem 

________________________________

From: M.Khaled [mailto:
mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com ] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21,
2007 1:41 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Urgent 


Hi,

I sent a question to the mailing
list and got no answer till now.Could anyone help me?
My question was about how to
send xml as a string by axis client avoiding special character
problem.

Thanks,
Mohamed.
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<div>Hi Sietse,</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I red the article of the first link and I noticed he is using a class called IBMSOAPFactory to create element from XML string.I tried to try this example but failed to find the jar file for&nbsp;this class.Do you know where&nbsp;I can find it or if there is&nbsp;any equivalent open source class?</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Best Regards,</div>  <div>Mohamed.&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>sietsenicolaas.tenhoeve@bt.com</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi Mohamed,<BR><BR>I advice to use strong typed wsdl files. I hope you are familiar with<BR>strong vs. loose type languages? (i.e. java (strong) vs. php (loose))<BR><BR>I think the following links will provide enough information:<BR>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/ws-tip-xsdcaution.html<BR>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-loosevstrong.ht<BR>ml<BR><BR>I agree almost
 complete with both articles that strong typed definitions<BR>are the way to go. This because it minimizes the interpretation and<BR>maximizes the intend of the service. The articles are pointing that out<BR>with good examples imho!<BR><BR>Sietse<BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: M.Khaled [mailto:mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com] <BR>Sent: 21 November 2007 13:28<BR>To: axis-user@ws.apache.org<BR>Subject: RE: Urgent<BR><BR><BR>Hi Sietse,<BR><BR>I am new to web service.So I am asking how can I adjust the wsdl file<BR>as you adviced me?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Mohamed<BR><BR>sietsenicolaas.tenhoeve@bt.com wrote:<BR><BR>Hi Mohamed,<BR><BR>In my opinion the wsdl definition is not really a definition. It<BR>specifies that it will receive a string. But it doesn't specify<BR>the<BR>meaning of it (i.e. xml, xml encoded as string). Therefore your<BR>wsdl is<BR>loosely defined and this gives freedom to the implementer to<BR>interpret<BR>it the way he wants. This results
 in unexpected behaviour.<BR><BR>My advice is to adjust the wsdl and make a strict definition of<BR>the<BR>messages. This enforces the client to use the well specified<BR>description<BR>and gives less possibility for an own interpretation.<BR><BR>Just my 2 cents.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Sietse<BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: M.Khaled [mailto:mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com] <BR>Sent: 21 November 2007 12:52<BR>To: axis-user@ws.apache.org<BR>Subject: Re: Urgent<BR><BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>You think the server should decode the received string before<BR>parsing<BR>it, to reconvert the special charcters like '&lt; and &gt; to '&lt;' and<BR>'&gt;' ?<BR><BR><BR>Mohamed<BR><BR>Paul Fremantle wrote:<BR><BR>Mohamed<BR><BR>Now I'm confused. The WSDL defines a string. That says that the<BR>server is expecting a string. So if that string is going to an<BR>XML, then<BR>it *should* be encoded, because the datatype of the element is<BR>string<BR>not xml. <BR><BR>If the server was
 expecting un-encoded XML then the WSDL should<BR>say:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>The client is doing the right thing (at least as far as the WSDL<BR>says) in encoding the XML with &lt; etc. <BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR>On Nov 21, 2007 11:27 AM, M.Khaled<BR>wrote:<BR><BR><BR>Hi Paul,<BR><BR>-This mail contains attached WSDL file which I used to<BR>create the client by axis.<BR>-And About the way I am creating the XML that I am<BR>sending it's similar to the foolowing: <BR><BR>class Main{<BR>String xml="text";<BR>Request req=new Request();<BR>req.setAttr(xml); <BR>Sender sender=new Sender();<BR>sender.send(req);<BR>}<BR><BR>class Request{<BR>String attr=null;<BR>getAttr(){<BR>return attr;<BR>}<BR>setAttr(String s){ <BR>attr=s;<BR>}<BR><BR>class Sender{<BR>public Response send(Request req) {<BR>Response res=(Response) call.invoke(req);<BR>return res;<BR>}<BR>}<BR><BR>Paul Fremantle wrote: <BR><BR>Mohamed<BR><BR>The server is expecting it in XML form not<BR>string form.<BR><BR>Can you
 please post the WSDL. Also please<BR>explain how you are creating the XML that you are sending. <BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR>On Nov 21, 2007 10:41 AM, M.Khaled<BR>wrote:<BR><BR><BR>First of all Thanks a lot for your quick<BR>response.Second I just want to tell you how the scenario going<BR>in here:<BR>(1)I am just working in the client side<BR>(meaning I just created the client by axis WSDL2JAVA command by<BR>passing<BR>the WSDL file to it). <BR><BR>(2)And I have to set ant attribute value<BR>which is of type String to a specific object and this value is<BR>xml<BR>elements but in a string representation.<BR><BR>(3)This specific object will be passed<BR>to the invoke method of the Call object. <BR><BR>(4)In the server side (which is out of<BR>my work scope, I am just using the URL for it and know nothing<BR>else<BR>about it) it is expecting that this value I passed is xml in a<BR>string<BR>representation. <BR><BR>(5)So I tried your solution for base 64<BR>encoding but the output
 was something like this:<BR><BR>HJvc3BlY3Q+ICBpZClJzs <BR>and the server can't parse this form<BR>cause it is expecting that form:<BR>text<BR><BR>(6)And axis is generating this output: <BR><A><B>text<BR></B></A><BR>and the server can't parse this form.<BR><BR>That's the point I am still sticking in.<BR><BR>If you have any other solution please<BR>advice. <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Mohamed. <BR><BR>"Hoda, Nadeem [USA]" &lt;<BR>hoda_nadeem@bah.com &gt; wrote: <BR><BR><BR>If it is something very urgent,<BR>the easiest way is to base 64 encode the XML and pass the<BR>encoded string<BR>which is guaranteed to have no special characters. <BR><BR>For example (server-side): <BR><BR><BR>import<BR>org.apache.xerces.impl.dv.util.Base64;<BR><BR>...<BR>//send this string <BR>String encodedXML =<BR>Base64.encode(rawXMLString);<BR>...<BR><BR><BR>Otherwise you can use<BR>attachments, but that is not an "urgent" scenario solution. <BR><BR>Thanks, <BR><BR>Nadeem
 <BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: M.Khaled [mailto:<BR>mohamed_mohamed_186@yahoo.com ] <BR>Sent: Wednesday, November 21,<BR>2007 1:41 PM<BR>To: axis-user@ws.apache.org<BR>Subject: Urgent <BR><BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>I sent a question to the mailing<BR>list and got no answer till now.Could anyone help me?<BR>My question was about how to<BR>send xml as a string by axis client avoiding special character<BR>problem.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Mohamed.<BR>________________________________<BR><BR>Be a better sports nut! Let your<BR>teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.<BR>t9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ&gt; <BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your<BR>homepage. <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Paul Fremantle<BR>Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2<BR>OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair<BR><BR>blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org<BR><BR>paul@wso2.com<BR><BR>"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform",<BR>www.wso2.com
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