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From Demetris G <demet...@ece.neu.edu>
Subject Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Date Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:16:24 GMT

In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do 
have a good understanding on how
Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that 
some researchers are using the wrong
terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people. 
These projects are the implementations
of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and 
process their communications
with the world. What people should understand is that the service 
implementations are not really "contained"
in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for 
the feedback Amila.

Demetris G wrote:
>
> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web 
> services container - yes ?
> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it 
> wrong.
>
> Thanks
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
>>
>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
>>>     <mailto:demetris@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
>>>         considered a
>>>         stable and reliable enough
>>>         standalone web service container
>>>
>>>     Axis2 is not a  web service container.  Axis2 is a soap and REST
>>>     message processor which supports WS*.  Axis2 is a stable product.
>>>     Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST  message processing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It 
>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and 
>>> REST message processing capabilities.
>>>
>>>
>>>         and it should always be deployed within
>>>         other proven
>>>         containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>>>
>>>     Yes this is the recommended way.  if you want an standalone server
>>>     you can use
>>>     WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses  the axis2 and
>>>     embedded tomcat server.
>>>
>>>         Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
>>>         Axis? Where is this documented?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:marko.simic@gmail.com>
>>>         > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:marko.simic@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >     Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
>>>         service
>>>         >     I thought
>>>         >     it would be much easer for deployment/management to 
>>> deploy
>>>         >     preconfigured
>>>         >     standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
>>>         memory and
>>>         >     performance
>>>         >     could be better.
>>>         >     Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
>>>         should be tested.
>>>         >
>>>         >     If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
>>>         what you may
>>>         >     suggest.
>>>         >     Thanks.
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
>>>         concorrent
>>>         > requests and performs well.
>>>         > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
>>>         tested and
>>>         > mainly for testing purposes.
>>>         >
>>>         > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>>>         >
>>>         > Amila.
>>>         >
>>>         >     Regards,
>>>         >     Marko Simic
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >     Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>         >     >
>>>         >     > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:marko.simic@gmail.com>
>>>         >     <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:marko.simic@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>         >     >>
>>>         >     >>
>>>         >     >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
>>>         deployed in
>>>         >     Tomcat to
>>>         >     >> standalone version.
>>>         >     >
>>>         >     >
>>>         >     > why you want to do this?
>>>         >     > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http 
>>> server  in
>>>         >     production
>>>         >     > use.
>>>         >     >
>>>         >     > Can someone, please, advise me:
>>>         >     >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>>>         >     >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
>>>         using
>>>         >     DataSources
>>>         >     >> and
>>>         >     >> just passing its names to web services. Question 
>>> is: is it
>>>         >     possible to do
>>>         >     >> in
>>>         >     >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
>>>         approach.
>>>         >     >> b) we were using basic web service access
>>>         authentication and
>>>         >     user list
>>>         >     >> was
>>>         >     >> stored in mysql database.
>>>         >     >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
>>>         authentication
>>>         >     methods
>>>         >     >>
>>>         >     >> Thank you in advance,
>>>         >     >> Marko Simic
>>>         >     >> Soft Division
>>>         >     >> --
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>>>         >            
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804

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