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From Deepal Jayasinghe <>
Subject Re: sesion managment, scope=soapsession
Date Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:27:19 GMT
Hi Stadelmann ;
pls see my comments below;

> Hi session-managers,
> I'm running my client and server with modules addressing-1.1, logging,
> soapmonitor-1.1 engaged and have set scope=soapsession
> got the additional methods
>    public void init(ServiceContext sCtx) {
> = sCtx;
>" init() called ");
>     }
>     public void destroy(ServiceContext sCtx) {
>         if(!{
>             this.log.error("ServiceContext on init() and destroy() not
> equal in ");
>         }
>" destroy() called ");
>     }
>     public void setOperationContext(OperationContext oCtx) {
>         this.oc = oCtx;
>" setOperationContext() called
> ");       
>     }
We have removed this method (it was there in Axis2 1.0 , but we removed
that from Axis2 1.1), so we are no longer going to call this method . If
you want to get access to operation context , then you can do that as
MessageContext msgCtx = MessageContext.getCurrentContext();

from msgCtx you can access any of the contexts you want .

> I start client #1 which has the effect that MyService.init() is
> called; so far so right!
> Client #1 then loops and sends continously messages to MyService.echo()
> I start client #2 which has the effect that MyService.destroy() is
> called followed by MyService.init()
> This has the effect that client #1 fails with an "invalid group
> context id exception"
> Is this a bug?
Nope. That is not a bug , soapsession has concept of time out , so once
it gets time out you will get that exception.

> I have studied the architecture of axis2 and have drilled down in code
> and I came down to where alle the service objects are finally called
> at "invokeBusinessLogic" (inCtx, outCtx)  with it's call to
> "method.invoke" ( . . . )
good .

> All reading in code and documentation did not answer my questions ***
> How does Axis2 manage / support long-lasting-sessions to
> server-objects bound to this session ? ***
> Do I have to implement this myself on top of Axis2?
No , you can get support from Axis2 session management. If you have
Axis2 1.1 distribution there you can find a sample called Library sample
, which help you to understand most of the important factors.

> 1. I want to have a client-object exchanging OMElements with it's
> service-class-object.
yes , doable

> 2. when the client starts the session, up on receiving the first
> message, a unique instance of the service-class-object shall be
> created at the server.
yes , that is what happen.

> 2a) 20 client objects shall mean we have instantiated 20
> dedicated-server-objects

> 3. as long as this 20 service-class-object exists, in fact 20
> wrapper-object to 20 external server process, and as long as this 20
> external process exist it shall not be allowed that one single
> service-class-object dies. for that reasioon the server-objects must
> exist until it's dedicated client terminates the session esplicitly by
> calling logout() on the server-object.
Nope , the behavior of soapsession is not like that. It has a notion of
time out. If the user does not touch the service for about 30s (time
interval is configurable) , then the session will be automatically

> 4. every message sent by a client has to reach exact the same instance
> of the service-class-object as the previous message did, anything else
> would be considerd a security risk, a fault, an error.
yes , we are mapping to the same session using special header parameter
called "ServiceGroupID"

> I have read in a dcoument about axis session managment @
> "that axis2 is
> meant to be an enterprise web service engine, so it has to support
> session management."
The article is little bit out dated , since we had few changes from
Axis2 1.0 to 1.1

> I have read all related e-mails and implemented soap-sessions which
> work nicely with one client and one server. But they die when the
> second client starts as descibed above. the second client creates a
> new service-group-id when and the old one gets lost. THis happens in
> my mind because destry is called implicit. So client-1 then fails as
> it's known service-group-id does no longer exist.
> I have not found in all the e-mail of the past 3 months a clear idea
> or an answer to this often asked questions about "how to implement
> sessions to such server side obejcts".
> I must admit, I do not understand how ws-addressing supports my demand.
> Can I managment my sessions with axis2 in an elegant way or do I have
> to fall-back to servlets and tomcat?
> I would really appreciate any answers and thank you very much to
> answer my burning question not only for my own satisfaction. Thank you.
> Josef

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