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From "Jesse Pelton" <>
Subject RE: I give up
Date Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:29:53 GMT
I don't know why it should be, but it seems to me that there's a higher
consumer to provider ratio on the Axis list than on the others I
subscribe to.  I've been lurking for a few weeks.  Because I'm thinking
about using Axis but haven't actually started to do so, I have nothing
of a technical nature to contribute.  I've subscribed to other lists for
years, and after a while, I know enough to respond to some questions.  I
view this as a) giving back to the community that developed the project
and helped me master it, and b) freeing up developers so they can focus
on developing the next version.  I find it very satisfying to help out,
and I often deepen my knowledge in the process.

This list seems different for some reason.  I can't verify this,
especially since I haven't been subscribing for very long, but it feels
like there aren't many people other than the developers helping out.
(Those that do, however, often offer prodigious amounts of knowledgeable
insight.  I won't name names for fear of forgetting someone, but I hope
you know who you are.)  I get the sense that people join to ask a
question, then unsubscribe once they have an answer.  Some of this is to
be expected, of course, but maybe it happens more on the Axis list, for
whatever reason.

One might construe this as a challenge in the open-source style: if you
don't like the level of support on the list, stick around and help make
it better!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [] 
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:14 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: I give up
> Ken,
> Truth is everyone is working hard on Axis2...
> -- dims
> On 10/28/05, Hoying, Ken <> wrote:
> > Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I cannot help but 
> wonder if the support level is not affected by Covalent now 
> selling support for Axis and Covalent's close relationship 
> with current and former Axis developers (some of whom work 
> for Covalent).  Has commercialism made its way into the open 
> source ranks?

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