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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: Need suggestions on web service interop and design
Date Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:49:39 GMT
+1 .. this is a serious issue for the Java world to do something


Anderson Jonathan wrote:

> Between you, me, and Axis User :) - amidst my searching to grasp the SOAP
> based SOA big picture, I'm starting to feel as if SOAP support is just being
> bolted onto the J2EE stack.  JAX-RPC, SAAJ, JAXM, JAXR, yadda, yadda.  The
> fact that it's hard to quantify exactly what Axis is (saying that it is a
> JAX-RPC implementation is not really doing it justice) just exemplifies
> this.  There is just seems to be no clear overall direction for supporting
> SOAP based SOAs with Java.
> Keep an eye on Indigo.  Read through their white papers, if nothing else -
> they really seem to have their act together as far as SOAP based SOAs.  If
> Microsoft can do for SOA with Indigo what it did for thick GUI architecture
> with .Net, then the time to market simplicity of it all is going to be hard
> to ignore.
> Even if J2EE technologies can compete, it's almost as if we'll be following
> Microsoft's lead and interoperating with THEM rather than the other way
> around.
> Regards,
> Jonathan Anderson
> Booz Allen Hamilton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelson Minar []
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:30 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: Need suggestions on web service interop and design
>>David, you may be understating the problem a bit.  Building interoperable,
>>WS-I compliant SOAP services with Axis is a little involved.
> Yeah, a little too involved. Shouldn't this be easier? No specific
> criticism of Axis intended. I'm just amazed at how much effort I'm
> going through to pass arrays of numbers around.

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