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From Sanjay Krishnamurthi <>
Subject Re: backwards compatability
Date Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:02:51 GMT

 When you add a new element to your type, how the
client is impacted really depends on how the
deserializer has been coded assuming it relies on Axis
serializers/deserialiers. (It is not really a java
issue : Note that stubs have already been generated)
Ideally bean deserializer should simply ignore
elements that don't have corresponding fields in the

  BTW, I may be missing something but isn't service
style (Literal, Wrapped etc) is really a service
provider issue. Service provider may be written in
message style but the client may be depending on


--- Anne Thomas Manes <> wrote:
> Cory,
> If you're using MESSAGE style services, then, yes, I
> would expect the 
> client to be able to handle the change -- no sweat.
> If you're using RPC, 
> WRAPPED, or DOCUMENT style, I would expect the
> deserializer to barf. Java's 
> not too good at handling the dynamic introduction of
> a new element in an 
> object.
> Anne
> At 12:31 PM 8/26/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >All,
> >
> >We've recently added a new member to an object
> being returned in our 
> >response payload. Basically we've added a simple
> type to a complex type 
> >that clients are used to consuming. We've
> appropriately updated our WSDL 
> >and I've updated our custom serializer to return
> the new member.  My 
> >question is this -- should existing clients that
> have generated stubs 
> >prior to the addition of the new member play
> nicely?  I would expect the 
> >introduction of a new element (especially a simple
> type wrapped up in a 
> >known complex type) to have little effect on
> existing stubs but it seems 
> >like at best you'd wind up with indeterminable
> results.  From what I can 
> >tell -- Axis client tools choke if the payload
> changes even at the most 
> >trivial level, .NET tools manage to ignore the
> introduced element.  I'm 
> >not saying either platform is right or wrong -- I
> just hate the idea of 
> >having to get partners to regen stubs because of
> the addition of a new 
> >member if they don't need access to that member.
> >
> >Certainly, the purist in me says "introduce a new
> service" -- but the 
> >practical side of me says that client tools should
> ignore elements that 
> >they weren't originally made aware of.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> >Cory

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