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From "Anne Thomas Manes" <a...@manes.net>
Subject Re: Axis vs Glue
Date Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:05:00 GMT
Sun's product is the JAX-RPC Reference Implementation, which is distributed
as part of the Java Web Services Developer Pack (JWSDP -
http://java.sun.com/webservices/webservicespack.html). IMHO, Axis is much
easier to use than the JAX-RPC RI. I recommend Axis over JWSDP every time.

Anne

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Delcomminette" <dde@aireinfo.com>
To: <axis-user@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: Axis vs Glue


> Does Sun have a tool similar to GLUE or WASP, how does it compare to them?
>
> Dominique
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:anne@manes.net]
> Sent: 02 July, 2003 18:00
> To: axis-user@ws.apache.org; kparams2k@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Axis vs Glue
>
> When I refer to GLUE as ".NET for Java", what I mean is that it's as easy
to
> use as .NET. You can use GLUE to develop both clients and servers in Java.
> GLUE generates a set of helper classes that do most of the work for you.
> From a programming perspective on the client side, you simply include the
> helper classes and write two simple lines of code to invoke the remote
> service. From a programming perspective on the server side, you simply
> deploy your service class/package (similar to Axis .jws). One big
advantage
> that GLUE provides is a more comprehensive serialization framework. It can
> handle pretty much any object, and doesn't require custom [de]serializers.
> And GLUE supports easy interoperability with .NET, even when using complex
> types. (In addition to the java2wsdl and wsdl2java tools, GLUE also
provides
> java2schema and schema2java tools.) It provides excellent support for
> document/literal (although I still see a few errors in the generated WSDL.
> For the best support of document/literal, I recommend WASP).
>
> Seamless support for document/literal is a key advantage over Axis at the
> moment (but I'm hoping that we'll fix this issue soon).
>
> I'd really like to stop promoting GLUE on this list, so if anyone else has
> more questions, please email me off-list.
>
> Anne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Parames" <kparams2k@yahoo.com>
> To: <axis-user@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Axis vs Glue
>
>
> > Well, quite true.
> > Anne,
> > You mentioned that Glue as".Net for java"
> > Why any advance features or way gkue works differs
> > from AXIS to enhance better to .netclinet..
> >
> > IF you dont mind can i get more info on it?
> > Is it means you are suggesting GLue for .Net client
> > with java webservices.??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net> wrote:
> > > Absolutely!!!!
> > > If that were the case, Axis would be ahead of the
> > > independents rather than
> > > the other way around.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <dims@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <axis-user@ws.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Axis vs Glue
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anne,
> > > >
> > > > Wish all Axis committers were on this
> > > full-time...Right?
> > > >
> > > > -- dims
> > > >
> > > > --- Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net> wrote:
> > > > > I didn't say that Axis is not as good as GLUE,
> > > and I didn't mean to
> > > imply it. I only said that
> > > > > GLUE is easy to use and that the standard
> > > edition is free. (facts, not
> > > comparisons)
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously -- based on the amount of time I spend
> > > answering questions on
> > > this list -- I am a big
> > > > > supporter of Axis. Axis is unequivocally the
> > > best open source Web
> > > services platform available,
> > > > > and my goal is to help make this product even
> > > better. For people that
> > > want to use an open source
> > > > > product with Java, Axis is the only way to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I will also pay homage where homage is due.
> > > So now I will give you
> > > some comparisons.
> > > > >
> > > > > GLUE is unequivocally the easiest to use Web
> > > services platform for Java
> > > available. I refer to it
> > > > > as ".NET for Java". Ease-of-use has been one of
> > > The Mind Electric's
> > > primary goals, and it shows.
> > > > > GLUE is also one of the fastest implementations
> > > available, and it
> > > supports a number of advanced
> > > > > features, such as excellent support for
> > > document/literal and
> > > WS-Security.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the flip side, The Mind Electric is a tiny
> > > company, and in these
> > > tough economic times it's
> > > > > always a good idea to examine the viability of a
> > > tiny company. You
> > > should also be aware that
> > > > > GLUE delivers it's exceptional ease of use via a
> > > set of proprietary APIs
> > > (It also supports the
> > > > > standard JAX-RPC APIs -- but the proprietary
> > > APIs are much easier to use
> > > than the JAX-RPC APIs).
> > > > >
> > > > > For someone just starting out, trying to learn
> > > the technology, GLUE's a
> > > good choice. Especially
> > > > > since it's free. I've also suggested on more
> > > than one occasion that it's
> > > a good idea for Axis
> > > > > users to play with multiple products to learn
> > > the ins and outs of this
> > > technology. And I
> > > > > strongly suggest that all Axis developers play
> > > with the other products
> > > (esp. GLUE, WASP,
> > > > > CapeClear, and XMLBus) to learn how these other
> > > companies do stuff.
> > > Competition drives
> > > > > innovation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anne
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: santosh.joshi@bt.com
> > > > >   To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > > > >   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:27 AM
> > > > >   Subject: RE: Axis vs Glue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Anne,
> > > > >
> > > > >   Are you saying that AXIS (supported by IBM and
> > > Apache) is not as good
> > > as GLUE?
> > > > >
> > > > >   Who supports The Mind Electric? (Unless
> > > Microsoft does!!)
> > > > >
> > > > >   I would think that AXIS is a safer bet, so
> > > that finally when Web
> > > Services standards fully
> > > > > mature, then one can migrate to a professional
> > > product (if need be).
> > > Given the history of Apache
> > > > > organisation and given that AXIS is likely to be
> > > a benchmark system for
> > > other vendors, I would
> > > > > still bet on AXIS rather than other vendors.
> > > > >
> > > > >   May be it's just me :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >   Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >   Santosh
> > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > >     From: Anne Thomas Manes
> > > [mailto:anne@manes.net]
> > > > >     Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:04 PM
> > > > >     To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > > > >     Subject: Re: Axis vs Glue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     GLUE is very easy to use. The standard
> > > edition is free for
> > > commercial use.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Anne
> > > > >       ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >       From: Jan Agermose
> > > > >       To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > > > >       Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > > >       Subject: Axis vs Glue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >       Does anyone have any pros/cons on the two?
> > > If this is an allowed
> > > question :-) Glue looks a
> > > > > bit simpler to get started with - might just be
> > > better documented :-D
> > > but then the prof. edition
> > > > > is somewhat expensive...
> > > > >
> > > > >       Jan Agermose
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > > Davanum Srinivas -
> > > http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > >
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