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From Tom Jordahl <>
Subject RE: Questions on moving to Axis 1.2
Date Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:53:40 GMT

+1 to Steve as release manager and being ruthless for 1.2.


Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Loughran [] 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Questions on moving to Axis 1.2

Speaking as an individual (and not as the Axis dev team), I am against 
*any* changes going into the Axis1.1 codebase at this time. (at the -0 
to -0.5 level; not prepared to veto them, but very unhappy about their 

Every change has consequences, and the only way to find out what they 
are is to do a full RC cycle. We need to stop last minute changes that 
arent related to regressions (something that worked on 1.0 breaks on 
1.1). Lots of people want to put their fixes into the 1.1 release, but 
we need to hold back or nothing will ever get out the door.

As soon as 1.1 goes gold the source repository opens up again and plenty 
many changes can go through. scalability and performance are things that 
need looking at -and the system needs to be aggressively tested on a 
multi-cpu system to make sure that nothing breaks.

Other people can disagree, it is always a tough line deciding what goes 
in and what doesnt. We got burned in Axis1.0 with a last minute change 
(hence the need for servlet.jar in the client on java1.4), and the 
reasonably slow release cycle for axis1.1 has actually let the system 
get reasonably stable.

It's also created pent up demand for extra things to go into the system. 
Next time we should explicitly branch CVS and be very ruthless about 
changes. Maybe I'll nominate myself release manager, so you can really 
see intransigence.

Shellman, Joel wrote:
> Is there any chance that the bug I entered recently about the performance problem (
could get into official 1.1 release? We're supposed to ship our product in June and I'd rather
not ship our product with a self-patched version of axis.
> Thanks!
> -joel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Loughran 
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:23 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Questions on moving to Axis 1.2
> Mike DuVall wrote:
>>We currently have an application that is using Axis 1.0.  We would 
>>to move to Axis 1.1.  A few questions:
>>1.  What's the latest on when Axis 1.1. will be officially released?
> very soon. Code is essentially frozen, it just comes down to sorting out 
> the JAX-RPC certification process with sun (we have to do this now, see)
>>2.  Will the final released version of Axis 1.1 be exactly the same as
>>1.1 RC 2?  Or will it be 1.1 RC 2 plus misc. bug fixes?
> 1.1RC2+bug fixes.
>>3.  If I switch from 1.0 to 1.1. RC 2 now and then upgrade to the
>>offical 1.1 when it becomes available, what's the likelyhood I will run 
>>into major problems?
> pretty low. You could always get the version from CVS and build it 
> yourself for even greater likelihood.
>>4.  How stable and usable is 1.1. RC2?
> best version of Axis yet.

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