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From Ted Neward <>
Subject RE: I hate axis because...
Date Mon, 05 Aug 2002 19:49:22 GMT
Don't you DARE fall into that trap. Sun cheated, and the only reason they
can get away with it is because developers want to shove their hands into
the sand and not worry about deployment issues--"after all, we can worry
about that when we ship, right?". Naturally, with that attitude, they run
into HUGE issues when they ship, and that's when a huge number of obstacles
to future versioning are laid down for all eternity.

I *like* the minimalist approach Axis takes. I *want* the sole artifact out
of my Axis build to be a .war file that can be dropped into any servlet
container, regardless of manufacturer. I weep for the developers using
jwsdp, because when they go to try and deploy under anything other than
jwsdp, they're hosed.

Don't change a thing, IMHO.

Ted Neward
Architect, UCDavis Account & Financial Services

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Ruby []
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 03:48
Subject: Re: I hate axis because...

Steve Loughran wrote:
> I think Axis is troublesome to install, as evidenced by much discussion on
> the matter (I'm catching up on 10 days mail and half the 360 messages in
> this list are config issues). Does this make Axis worse than JWSDP? They
> cheated: their distro includes tomcat, the soap server, xerces,
> XP patch, whatever; it is almost a unified Apache Distro of everything
> of Axis. But because it is all integrated there are less install issues.
> Nobody has to worry about jwsdp on weblogic 'cept BEA.

Perhaps this is obvious, but i will state it anyway.  There is nothing 
stopping us from doing likewise.

- Sam Ruby

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