Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact axis-user-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list axis-user@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 58834 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2002 01:19:42 -0000 Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.173.59) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Feb 2002 01:19:42 -0000 Received: from airtouch-cust-2068017.cust-rtr.pacbell.net (HELO yahoo.com) (64.162.214.142) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2002 01:19:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3C608342.6050901@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:13:38 -0800 From: obrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: axis-user@xml.apache.org CC: "'axis-dev@xml.apache.org'" Subject: Re: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance? References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090403050601050300040905" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------090403050601050300040905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I am reading the JAX-RPC specifications, on page 43 (5.4.1 XML Mapping), all the values in an XSD construct should be mapped to a serializable field, therefore generating the methods getXX() and setXX(). When using SOAP Apache, I created a Castor (from exolab) Serializer/Deserializer. I will look into it in order to generate JAXP-RPC compliant objects (if it can be done of course). Olivier Glen Daniels wrote: >+1 for instantiating classes for all subtypes of referenced types. I think the simple thing to do might really be to just generate *all* the types, but I guess the worry here is that there will be huge commonly imported type library schemas of which only a few types are referenced for a given service? > >--Glen > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: R J Scheuerle Jr [mailto:scheu@us.ibm.com] >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:52 PM >>To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org >>Cc: axis-dev@xml.apache.org; axis-user@xml.apache.org >>Subject: RE: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance? >> >> >>Let's say that Object had the attribute "abstract=true", then >>clearly the >>Folder class should be generated since that would be the only >>type that >>could >>be instantiated and passed over the wire. >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------------------------------------------- >> >>In the case that Object does not have the "abstract=true" >>attribute, then >>either Object or Folder could be passed over the wire. It certainly >>wouldn't >>offend me to generate both. It certainly could offend a user >>if it didn't >>generate Folder. >> >>+1 to generating both Object and Folder. >> >>So if an xml type is referenced, then all complexTypes that extend the >>referenced type >>should be marked as referenced. >> >>Rich Scheuerle >>XML & Web Services Development >>512-838-5115 (IBM TL 678-5115) >> >> >> >> >> "St-Germain, >> >> Sylvain" To: >>axis-user@xml.apache.org, axis-dev@xml.apache.org >> >> > >> cognos.com> Subject: >>RE: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance? >> >> >> >> 02/04/2002 03:07 PM >> >> Please respond to >> >> axis-dev >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Russel, >> >>You say "...But perhaps it SHOULD be generated because it >>COULD be used as >>an Object?" >> >>I say: "It SHOULD be generated because it WILL be used." >> >>-- >>Sylvain >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Russell Butek [mailto:butek@us.ibm.com] >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:47 PM >>To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org >>Cc: axis-user@xml.apache.org >>Subject: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance? >> >> >>Folks in axis-dev, there's a discussion going on in axis-user >>about what >>WSDL2Java generates. Given: >> >>>> >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>There are 2 types here: Object, and Folder (for which Object >>is the base). >>Object is generated because it's in the addInput message >>which is in the >>add operation. Folder is NOT generated because it isn't referenced >>anywhere. But perhaps it SHOULD be generated because it >>COULD be used as >>an Object? >> >>Question: what is the right thing to do? >> >>Russell Butek >>butek@us.ibm.com >> >>This message may contain privileged and/or confidential >>information. If >>you >>have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended >>recipient, you >>may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any >>attachments, delete it immediately from your system and >>notify the sender >>promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. >> >> >> > --------------090403050601050300040905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I am reading the JAX-RPC specifications, on page 43 (5.4.1 XML Mapping), all the values in an XSD <all> construct should be mapped to a serializable field, therefore generating the methods getXX() and setXX().

When using SOAP Apache, I created a Castor (from exolab) Serializer/Deserializer. I will look into it in order to generate JAXP-RPC compliant objects (if it can be done of course).

Olivier

Glen Daniels wrote:

+1 for instantiating classes for all subtypes of referenced types.  I think the simple thing to do might really be to just generate *all* the types, but I guess the worry here is that there will be huge commonly imported type library schemas of which only a few types are referenced for a given service?

--Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: R J Scheuerle Jr [mailto:scheu@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:52 PM
To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
Cc: axis-dev@xml.apache.org; axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: RE: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance?


Let's say that Object had the attribute "abstract=true", then 
clearly the
Folder class should be generated since that would be the only 
type that
could
be instantiated and passed over the wire.

--------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------

In the case that Object does not have the "
abstract=true" 
attribute, then
either Object or Folder could be passed over the wire.   It certainly
wouldn't
offend me to generate both.  It certainly could offend a user 
if it didn't
generate Folder.

+1 to generating both Object and Folder.

So if an xml type is referenced, then all complexTypes that extend the
referenced type
should be marked as referenced.

Rich Scheuerle
XML & Web Services Development
512-838-5115  (IBM TL 678-5115)


                                                              
                                                                      
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Russel,

You say "...But perhaps it SHOULD be generated because it 
COULD be used as
an Object?"

I say: "It SHOULD be generated because it WILL be used."

--
Sylvain


-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Butek [mailto:butek@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:47 PM
To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
Cc: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: What should WSDL2Java generate on inheritance?


Folks in axis-dev, there's a discussion going on in a
xis-user 
about what
WSDL2Java generates.  Given:

  <complexType name="Object">
    <sequence>
          [...]
    </sequence>
  </complexType>

  <complexType name="Folder">
    <complexContent>
      <extension base="types:Object">
        <sequence>
          [...]
        </sequence>
      </extension>
    </complexContent>
  </complexType>

  <message name="addInput">
    <part name="input" type="types:Object"/>
  </message>
  <message name="addOutput">
    <part name="result" type="xsd:string"/>
  </message>

  <operation name="add">
    <input message="cm:addInput"/>
    <output message="cm:addOutput"/>
  </operation>

There are 2 types here:  Object, and Folder (for which Object 
is the base).
Object is generated because it's in the addInput message 
which is in the
add operation.  Folder is NOT generated because it isn't referenced
anywhere.  But perhaps it SHOULD be generated because it 
COULD be used as
an Object?

Question:  what is the right thing to do?

Russell Butek
butek@us.ibm.com

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