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From Asanka Dissanayake <asanka...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Time to Call it a Day?
Date Thu, 02 Jul 2015 02:37:01 GMT
Hi Deepal,
I will look into this.

Thanks,
Asanka

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Deepal jayasinghe <deepalk@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Another big item would be to reduce time it takes for Axis2 build. May be
> we can move some modules out or find a better way to build.
>
> Deepal
>
>  There is another area where help would be welcome. I did some work
>> recently to make the build succeed on Java 7, and I know that it works
>> on Mac OS X (because I use that OS) and Linux (because the build works
>> on Jenkins). On the other hand, Deepal reported that he had/has
>> problems building on Windows. A build having platform (and Java
>> version) dependent issues is obviously bad. Personally, I no longer
>> have access to Windows machines (and I'm not really motivated to get
>> one running in the cloud somewhere...). So one useful contribution
>> would be to test the build on various platforms and Java versions and
>> help debugging issues identified.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> <hiranya911@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andun, Ravi and Asanka,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your show of support for Axis2 and Synapse
>>> projects.
>>> Please subscribe to the Axis2 mailing list if you already haven't and
>>> start
>>> working on some issues. I'm sure Deepal would be happy to point out some
>>> of
>>> the most important ones that need fixing immediately.
>>>
>>> I will also try to find some time over the next couple of weeks and help
>>> expedite the Axis2 release.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Deepal jayasinghe <deepalk@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I mentioned in one of the previous email, the best way to contribute
>>>> at
>>>> this point is pick few JIRAs and send patches. Once you send around
>>>> three
>>>> patches we will make you a committer.
>>>>
>>>> Deepal
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hiranya/Deepal,
>>>>
>>>> I've also been working with synapse and axis2 in the past two or so
>>>> years
>>>> and have some familiarity with the code base so I too would like to
>>>> contribute.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ravi
>>>>
>>>> On 28 June 2015 at 11:06, Hiranya Jayathilaka <hiranya911@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm opening this up for dev@ in the hope of getting some more
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Hiranya Jayathilaka <hiranya911@gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Time to Call it a Day?
>>>>> Date: June 10, 2015 12:08:33 AM PDT
>>>>> To: "private@synapse.apache.org" <private@synapse.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> [THIS AN INITIAL REQUEST FOR COMMENTS ONLY. NOT A VOTE.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't look like there's any active development happening in
>>>>> Synapse
>>>>> anymore. Here's a quick run down of our track record over the last few
>>>>> years:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. of commits in 2015: 2
>>>>> No. of commits in 2014: 10
>>>>> Last committer vote: December 2013
>>>>> Last release: January 2012 (v2.1)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Needless to say these are not the signs of a healthy open source
>>>>> project.
>>>>> Additionally, we have very little traffic on our mailing lists, and our
>>>>> efforts to do a release have been impeded by a number of factors
>>>>> (committers
>>>>> having difficulty finding time, slow release cycles of Axis2 and other
>>>>> dependencies etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Deepal is trying really hard to get an Axis2 release out the door, but
>>>>> despite his best efforts that release is also being delayed due to
>>>>> lack of
>>>>> time and manpower.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given this status, I'm beginning to wonder whether it's time to close
>>>>> down the shop, and move the project into Attic. What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my PERSONAL opinion, both Axis2 and Synapse have had a great run,
>>>>> and
>>>>> now it's time for them to gracefully retire. From the lack of mailing
>>>>> list
>>>>> and development activity, it looks like there's not much interest in
>>>>> these
>>>>> technologies any more. At least not to the point, where new releases
>>>>> are
>>>>> required -- existing users might still need patches and routine
>>>>> maintenance
>>>>> to already released code. The problems these projects attempt to solve
>>>>> (SOAP
>>>>> services and enterprise integration), have been well studied,
>>>>> researched and
>>>>> solved over the last 15 years. Many powerful and mature solutions exist
>>>>> (some of which are based on Axis2 and Synapse), but there doesn't seem
>>>>> to be
>>>>> any interest towards further developing these core platforms. The
>>>>> industry
>>>>> focus has shifted to other matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, that's just my personal view point. If the community at large
>>>>> believes otherwise, then we need to take a few corrective measures.
>>>>> Some of
>>>>> us need to join the Axis2 release effort, and expedite that release
>>>>> cycle.
>>>>> There's an open invitation from the Axis2 PMC, and I'm sure they will
>>>>> be
>>>>> happy to grant us commit access if any of us are willing to join. Then
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to get the Synapse release process underway, and start thinking
>>>>> about
>>>>> the future development prospects for the Synapse project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>> Mayhem Lab/RACE Lab;
>>>>> Dept. of Computer Science, UCSB;  http://cs.ucsb.edu
>>>>> E-mail: hiranya@cs.ucsb.edu;  Mobile: +1 (805) 895-7443
>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>> Mayhem Lab/RACE Lab;
>>>>> Dept. of Computer Science, UCSB;  http://cs.ucsb.edu
>>>>> E-mail: hiranya@cs.ucsb.edu;  Mobile: +1 (805) 895-7443
>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Mayhem Lab/RACE Lab;
>>> Dept. of Computer Science, UCSB;  http://cs.ucsb.edu
>>> E-mail: hiranya@cs.ucsb.edu;  Mobile: +1 (805) 895-7443
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>
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