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From Andreas Veithen <>
Subject Re: Release Rampart 1.5.1 in sync with Axis2 1.5.4
Date Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:42:15 GMT
This would require again changes to the project structure and/or to
the build and release system. I'm not in principle against this, but
the issue I see with this is the following: In 2009 we moved the
transports into a separate project and in 2010 we migrated to a new
TLP. All this required lots of changes and it took a long time to
complete this (the TLP migration is still not entirely complete). If
we change the project structure every year and every time it takes
months to complete this, then we will never reach a stable situation.

My counterproposal is to keep things as they are in terms of project
structure, but continue to streamline the release processes. We can
then move to a release early, release often policy (as is happening
right now with the Axis2 1.5 branch) and also have simultaneous
releases (as I did for Sandesha2 and Axis2). This would allow us to
keep the flexibility to postpone the release of one of the subprojects
if there are blocking issues.

To summarize: I think that the real pain point is not that we have
separate subprojects, but that the release cycles are too long. This
can only be solved by making the release process easier, more
predictable and well documented.


On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 05:09, Ruwan Linton <> wrote:
> In the future how about bundling Rampart and Sandesha2 into the Axis2
> distribution itself? It is really part of Axis2 I guess. The recent
> experience that I had with the Synapse release convinced me that Rampart and
> Sandesha2 are really part of Axis2? Why do't we create a one single
> distribution with Rampart and Sandesh2 when we release Axis2.
> May be I am hijacking this thread, but I guess this thread is there also
> because of the above issue of separately releasing the Rampart and
> Sandesha2.
> Thanks,
> Ruwan
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Thilina Mahesh Buddhika
> <> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe
>> <> wrote:
>>> We have fixed loads of Rampart issues yesterday and we will be able to
>>> fix some more today as well.
>>> How about a release ASAP? I think users will benefit by having latest
>>> rampart working with latest Axis2.
>> +1.
>> We can do this release based on the recently released WSS4J 1.5.10.
>> Thanks,
>> Thilina
>>> Samisa...
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