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From Glen Daniels <g...@thoughtcraft.com>
Subject Re: question regrading Axis conditions
Date Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:24:43 GMT
Hi Oliver,

We discussed the WSDL4J issue in some depth years back, and IIRC settled on
the fact that the CPL is fine in our context - i.e. that Axis is not in fact
a "derivative work" of WSDL4J, but rather simply a user thereof.  I don't
have a pointer to the actual discussions but I'm sure one could be found.

With regard to the Sun stuff, I know that their license explicitly allowed
redistributing the servlet jars, but I don't have any intimate knowledge of
the files you refer to beyond that.  I imagine the Tomcat team has covered
this ground before.

Thanks,
--Glen

On 3/3/2010 9:24 AM, Fendt, Oliver wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> Thank you very much for the response.
> I contacted already the foundation on that topic, but I was pointered to you with the
request. We discussed the topic with lawyers but since we got no clear picture we decided
to ask you as the copyright holders about your view on this.
> Do you have any opinion about the "SUN" topic (meaning the license attachted to /axis-1_4/lib/servlet.jar/javax/
servlet/resources/web-app_2_3.dtd )?
> 
> 
> 
> Best regrads
> 
> Oliver Fendt
> 
> Siemens AG
> Corporate Technology
> CT T DE IT 1
> Otto-Hahn-Ring 6
> 81739 München, Deutschland
> Tel.: +49 (89) 636-46033 
> Fax: +49 (89) 636-45450 
> mailto:oliver.fendt@siemens.com 
> 
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Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, Joe Kaeser, Barbara Kux,
Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und
München, Deutschland; Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684;
WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:tjordahl@adobe.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:32 PM
> To: java-dev@axis.apache.org
> Subject: RE: question regrading Axis conditions
> 
> We (the Axis project, formerly the Web Service project) do not believe that the wsdl4j
license affects the license of Axis.  Axis 1.x has been embedded in many open source and commercial
software packages with no ill effect.
> 
> This might be a good subject to post to the Foundation Legal Discussion Mailing List:
>   http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal
> 
> Of course for all things legal, you would have to consult your own lawyers for authoritative
answers for your legal situation.
> 
> 
> Tom Jordahl
> Axis 1.x developer
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fendt, Oliver [mailto:oliver.fendt@siemens.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:22 AM
> To: java-dev@axis.apache.org
> Subject: question regrading Axis conditions
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Let me introduce myself, my name is Oliver Fendt I am working for Siemens Corporate Technology
and I am in charge of Open Source platforms. Siemens Coprporate Technology is a central function
and not developing any product.
> 
> I' have a question regarding the license conditions of packages delivered with Axis.
> 
> Axis 1.4 is shipped with wsdl4j-1.5.1.jar according to the license file which is contained
in the lib-directory of Axis too the package is licensed under the CPL 1.0, which is a copyleft
license. My question is wether the copyleft effect of the jar file spreads over Axis, or whether
you regard Axis not as a derivative work of wsdl4j?
> 
> 
> In this context I have an additional question the file /axis-1_4/lib/servlet.jar/javax/
servlet/resources/web-app_2_3.dtd has some strange license conditions (please see below) which
in my opinion are not Open Source compliant and even forbid the redistribution. My question
is whether Sun Microsystems had donated this file to the Apache foundation officially and
whether there exists a written statement on this issue from Sun Microsystems?
> 
> Btw. Such licensed files are present in Apache Tomcat too.
> 
> Files in Tomcat (5.5.23) which are licensed under the strange Sun License:
> 
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\jsp_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\web-jsptaglibrary_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_1_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_client_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\jsp_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\web-app_2_3.dtd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\web-app_2_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\web-jsptaglibrary_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_1_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\javax\servlet\http\package.html
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\javax\servlet\package.html
> 
>  
> 
> Sun Microsystems License information:
> 
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> 
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> 
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>  
> 
> Thank you in advance for your feedback 
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Oliver Fendt 
> 
> Siemens AG 
> Corporate Technology 
> CT T DE IT 1 
> Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 
> 81739 München, Deutschland 
> Tel.: +49 (89) 636-46033 
> Fax: +49 (89) 636-45450 
> mailto:oliver.fendt@siemens.com <mailto:oliver.fendt@siemens.com>  
> 
> Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; Vorstand:
Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, Joe Kaeser, Barbara Kux,
Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und
München, Deutschland; Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684;
WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322
> 
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