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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Axis2 as TLP
Date Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:21:06 GMT
Right, i agree. Release schedules does not depend on which TLP
transports reside in. Definitely +1 for transports to be a separately
release-able project where ever it is.

-- dims

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Asankha, I totally agree the transports need to be buildable and releasable
> as an entities by themselves.
>
> However, a TLP does not correspond to one piece of code. TLP == community to
> me. So right now the transports are in the WS TLP but we now can release
> them separately. I see no reason that would change even with the transports
> being under the axis2 TLP.
>
> So, +1 to making the transports also into a separate subproject. Whether
> that's under axis2 or ws, I really see no difference. YMMV.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> Asankha C. Perera wrote:
>>
>> I am -1 (binding) on this proposal as it is.
>>
>> I am not for, or against Axis2 becoming a TLP, but I am strongly opposed
>> to moving the transports to within Axis2, as it would make it difficult to
>> develop and release new versions of them independently of the Axis2 trunk
>> and release cycles - which are known to be long and painful.
>>
>> Apache Synapse folks developed some of these transports as they are highly
>> dependent on these, and they frequently require quick fixes at transport
>> level to be able to add new features and handle various issues. Thus the
>> ability to get a new version of the transports released when needed is
>> immensely important for Apache Synapse among other issues. In addition as a
>> developer, I have to admit that I hate to build Axis2 trunk each time I want
>> to commit changes to a transport, as it takes ages to build and fills up the
>> M2 repo and finally fails many times due to various issues. The interface
>> between a transport and anything else is clear, and you do not need to stick
>> it deep into a parent codebase to keep both working.
>>
>> We also have had length discussions on this for a long time, and agreement
>> from *all* the key players involved in this discussion, to make the new
>> WS-transports sub project outside of Axis2 - with independent release cycles
>> etc. I do not want to make this VOTE thread a discussion, but wanted
>> everyone to be aware on the effect of these actions on those who develop and
>> use this piece of software.
>>
>> asankha
>>
>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/uvhz22bqnkjq3wmf
>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/fr73nj32lchlgbxi
>> [3] http://markmail.org/message/okzimikvmbhimflr
>>
>> Glen Daniels wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks:
>>>
>>> Discussion seems to have died down about the TLP proposal, and I think we
>>> heard a lot of valuable viewpoints during the conversation.  At this point,
>>> I think it's time to VOTE on the idea and see where we're at.
>>>
>>> I've described what we're voting on on the wiki page [1], and will
>>> include it here as well:
>>>
>>> * Restructure Axis2 as an independent TLP, containing subprojects that
>>> *directly* relate to Axis2 - these include all the Modules and Transports.
>>> This ends up being a reasonably sized and well-focused project.
>>>
>>> * Once Axis2 is split out, we'll move the "sub-sub-projects" inside
>>> WS-Commons (Axiom, Neethi, XmlSchema) up to be WS subprojects. This will
>>> also involve making sure that the SVN authorizations are appropriately
>>> granular.
>>>
>>> * We'll then do a review of the remaining projects inside WS and based on
>>> that, decide whether any further action is needed. Such actions might
>>> include promoting more projects to TLPs, or retiring stagnant codebases.
>>>
>>> Please chime in with your VOTE on this (and indicate binding/non-binding
>>> depending on whether you are a PMC member).
>>>
>>> Here's my +1 (binding).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --Glen
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Proposals/Axis2TLPProposal
>
>
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
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