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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP
Date Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:02:55 GMT
No one is asking that everyone needs to get excited at the proposal.
If people are interested, let it move forward. If no one is
interested, it will just drop dead.  If people take this forward, they
will decide what to do next when the TLP is formed, no one will be
forced to sign up for work or need to get excited unnecessarily.

In other words, Status Quo sucks! let's try something. If it works
that's fine. If it doesn't there will be just another TLP. Hey we get
one more guy to become a VP :)

thanks,
dims

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Deepal jayasinghe wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I'd really like to get all of us committed, willing and
>>> able to contribute in a much more coordinated fashion then we are
>>> today. We don't hang out on IRC, no weekly chats, not much forward
>>> looking discussions, not much enthusiasm or cooperation anymore from
>>> looking at the mailing lists. I am trying to see if we can jumpstart
>>> that as well with this proposal.
>>>
>>
>> Well part of the reason behind that is everyone is busy with their day
>> to day work ,
>> for example when we start Axis2 we were fully focus on Axis2 .
>> So it was so easy for us to do all those , but now we work on Axis2 and
>> answer the mail
>> when we get some free time. Anyway I agree that there are some
>> improvements that we need to do.
>
> Also the other reason IMO is that axis2 is mostly "done" .. I have no
> objection at all to someone starting an axis3 or doing a lot of changes to
> axis2, but I personally don't have major problems that I see need to be
> fixed in axis2. Yes there are tons of JIRAs and lots of small issues, but
> those don't warrant / motivate the types of weekly chats and architectural
> conversations that we had in the early days.
>
> IMO the kernel of a SOAP stack is mostly a solved problem now. I think even
> CXF is seeing that .. and you don't see people writing new soap stacks any
> more!
>
> Again, if someone has a cool idea for a radical innovation what would drive
> yet another order of magnitude improvement (or there abouts) then I'm all
> ears for it. I personally haven't "seen the light" on how to improve the
> core of Axis2 & CXF any more at this point. That absolutely could change
> tomorrow, next week, next month or next year but not today, at least for me.
> I'm not talking about incremental changes but rather radical innovation -
> the type of thing that will grab people and get their creative juices
> flowing.
>
> IMO a lot of the work that's interesting is now going on around Axis2, not
> in the core of it. Example, writing new deployers that plug in more stuff,
> writing cool transports etc. etc. - those all hang around axis2 but that
> doesn't make axis2 itself really improve.
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
>
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