Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 95280 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2008 03:32:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Aug 2008 03:32:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 58068 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2008 03:32:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 58018 invoked by uid 500); 21 Aug 2008 03:32:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list axis-dev@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 58005 invoked by uid 99); 21 Aug 2008 03:32:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:32:48 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of nandana.cse@gmail.com designates 209.85.142.190 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.142.190] (HELO ti-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.142.190) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:31:48 +0000 Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id y6so455900tia.18 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:31:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eAKJlzZj+WmRsxh3VVs4sQUd8YsdhMbcTo/llZQgP8o=; b=WxujG7YNTLD5Ojn2TnzU8GAvcun4hI3poL+OkIajLqjpuQW23GNgwmEV+dK/AULwwf xV2ZJuYi/eeZqOqsmYcjSk/+5JxLpYsx6u0HPYx1CxBdRSGmbr8DstnqfYavFMntgfCq eshCnkUVmEa2dD3iCIIIbUfgLfmhar/qhqozg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aeXpnz6lXLkiauvorUjOEMYFCszKPGAQHEtaHV2XGLD8DER8VgE9G+PrSVOGw0m8Up PJoPYXJuwNDvTXdZTghhctNjz+rKCL4eTen5VGelTuZCyF4j6ZJYl1dSZ1wKlDlIt/jc Azjq1YX8W2/sVopTqszLPzbGKnKCFqkjxOySU= Received: by 10.110.15.19 with SMTP id 19mr912286tio.42.1219289518935; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.20.20 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e2fff830808202031u50036984pfcfbed8085bdcdc3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:01:58 +0530 From: "Nandana Mihindukulasooriya" To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Axis2][VOTE] Axis2 1.4.1 - Take #3 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_136113_8745164.1219289518933" References: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_136113_8745164.1219289518933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Thilina, I agree with you on both points. But as Axis2 1.4 also contained the docs shall we go on like this in 1.4.1 and do the change in Axis2 1.5. I will remove the tool binaries from the from the tools module and shall we continue this vote. I removed the tool binaries from the src dist [1], and the old src dist can be found here [2]. thanks, nandana [1] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip [2] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/old_src/ On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Thilina Gunarathne wrote: > Hi Keith, > I somewhat agree that the src dist should be able to recreate the release > artifacts. But in this case we will not be able to recreate only the docs > distro, we can even create java docs.. If other dist's are failing due to > the absense of docs module, then we have done something seriously wrong in > the build.. Also if you look at the real world usage of a src dist, it's > mostly used for browsing the source when debugging in IDE's. Not for > rebuilding a docs release. > > The reason for the seperate docs dist and not including docs to the src > dist in here [1] was due to the size of the docs. We did not had the docs > in the src dist in 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 releases. > > This is just my personal feeling about including the docs in the src > release, though [1] was discussed at the time of 1.1 release[2][3]. I'm > won't object for this release going forward with src dist containing docs. > > But we need to make sure to remove the binaries inside the tools folder of > the src dist. Those binaries take 40 MB's.. > > thanks, > Thilina > > [1] > http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Axis2/releases/1.1/release_artifacts > [2] http://markmail.org/message/so6fhofmelqngoey > [3] http://markmail.org/message/eldizjrjg734evag > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:00 PM, keith chapman wrote: > >> Hi Thilina, >> >> The docs are needed in the source distribution, otherwise you cannot >> build using the source distribution. I believe the source distribution >> should be able to produce the release artifacts on its own. >> >> Thanks, >> Keith. >> >> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Thilina Gunarathne >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > I notice the size of the source distribution is huge (55MB).. The >> culprit >> > seems to be the tools module.. It contains binaries for the 3 plugins >> and a >> > combined binary for them too... >> > >> > One other thing I noticed is that we have included the docs module in to >> the >> > src dist too, which is not needed according to our earlier plan [1]. >> This >> > has caused the size of the src dist to be increased quite a bit in the >> 1.4 >> > release too (6.9 MB in 1.3, 12 MB in 1.4) due to the inclusion of >> > documentation.. >> > >> > thanks, >> > Thilina >> > [1] >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Axis2/releases/1.1/release_artifacts >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Michele Mazzucco >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 for me. >> >> >> >> Michele >> >> >> >> >> >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 07:28, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote: >> >> >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >>> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> >> >>> Hi Devs, >> >>> >> >>> Please review: >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist >> >>> >> >>> Maven2 repository: >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/m2-repo/ >> >>> >> >>> SVN Info: >> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/branches/java/1_4 >> >>> (Revision: 684402) >> >>> >> >>> Here's my +1 to declaring the above dist as Axis2 1.4.1. >> >>> >> >>> thanks, >> >>> nandana >> >>> >> >>> Links to the individual Distribution/Tool files are listed below: >> >>> >> >>> Distributions : >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-bin.zip >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-docs.zip >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-war.zip >> >>> >> >>> Tools : >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-aar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-ant-plugin-1.4.1.jar >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-codegen-wizard.zip >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-service-archiver-wizard.zip >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-mar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-idea-plugin-1.4.1.zip >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-java2wsdl-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar >> >>> >> >>> >> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >>> >> >>> iD8DBQFIqmfymA4ts7hLdV8RAo3HAJ9CgBbKN7V5sBuGlyrWlaRrWDvKCwCbBKaM >> >>> mPWSjef5I3O0bE4XgaMyn6E= >> >>> =Wvk4 >> >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thilina Gunarathne - http://thilinag.blogspot.com >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Keith Chapman >> Senior Software Engineer >> WSO2 Inc. >> Oxygenating the Web Service Platform. >> http://wso2.org/ >> >> blog: http://www.keith-chapman.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Thilina Gunarathne - http://thilinag.blogspot.com > ------=_Part_136113_8745164.1219289518933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Thilina,
        I agree with you on both points. But as Axis2 1.4 also contained the docs shall we go on like this in 1.4.1 and do the change in Axis2 1.5. I will remove the tool binaries from the from the tools module and shall we continue this vote.  I removed the tool binaries from the src dist [1], and the old src dist can be found here [2].

thanks,
nandana

[1] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip
[2] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/old_src/


On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Thilina Gunarathne <csethil@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Keith,
I somewhat agree that the src dist should be able to recreate the release artifacts. But in this case we will not be able to recreate only the docs distro, we can even create java docs.. If other dist's are failing due to the absense of docs module, then we have done something seriously wrong in the build.. Also if you look at the real world usage of a src dist, it's mostly used for browsing the source when debugging in IDE's. Not for rebuilding a docs release.

The reason for the seperate docs dist and not including docs to the src dist in here  [1] was due to the size of the docs. We did not had the docs in the src dist in  1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 releases.

This is just my personal feeling about including the docs in the src release, though [1] was discussed at the time of 1.1 release[2][3].  I'm won't object for this release going forward with src dist containing docs.

But we need to make sure to remove the binaries inside the tools folder of the src dist. Those binaries take 40 MB's.. [2] http://markmail.org/message/so6fhofmelqngoey
[3] http://markmail.org/message/eldizjrjg734evag


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:00 PM, keith chapman <keithgchapman@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thilina,

The docs are needed in the source distribution, otherwise you cannot
build using the source distribution. I believe the source distribution
should be able to produce the release artifacts on its own.

Thanks,
Keith.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Thilina Gunarathne <csethil@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I notice the size of the source distribution is huge (55MB)..  The culprit
> seems to be the tools module.. It contains binaries for the 3 plugins and a
> combined binary for them too...
>
> One other thing I noticed is that we have included the docs module in to the
> src dist too, which is not needed according to our earlier plan [1].  This
> has caused the size of the src dist to be  increased quite a bit in the 1.4
> release too (6.9 MB in 1.3, 12 MB in 1.4) due to the inclusion of
> documentation..
>
> thanks,
> Thilina
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Axis2/releases/1.1/release_artifacts
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Michele Mazzucco
> <Michele.Mazzucco@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> +1 for me.
>>
>> Michele
>>
>>
>> On 19 Aug 2008, at 07:28, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Hi Devs,
>>>
>>> Please review:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist
>>>
>>> Maven2 repository:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/m2-repo/
>>>
>>> SVN Info:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/branches/java/1_4
>>> (Revision: 684402)
>>>
>>> Here's my +1 to declaring the above dist as Axis2 1.4.1.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> nandana
>>>
>>> Links to the individual Distribution/Tool files are listed below:
>>>
>>> Distributions :
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-bin.zip
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-docs.zip
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-war.zip
>>>
>>> Tools :
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-aar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-ant-plugin-1.4.1.jar
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-codegen-wizard.zip
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-service-archiver-wizard.zip
>>>
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-mar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-idea-plugin-1.4.1.zip
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-java2wsdl-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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>>>
>>> iD8DBQFIqmfymA4ts7hLdV8RAo3HAJ9CgBbKN7V5sBuGlyrWlaRrWDvKCwCbBKaM
>>> mPWSjef5I3O0bE4XgaMyn6E=
>>> =Wvk4
>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>>
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