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From "Thomas Whitmore (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Commented: (AXIS2-3396) docs & website repeatedly refer to Eclipse Plugin; but never specify NAME or WHERE IT IS LOCATED.
Date Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:03:25 GMT


Thomas Whitmore commented on AXIS2-3396:

I checked the indicated TOC page.  This does not mention *where* in the
distribution the plugin is located. Nor does the purported download link for
the plugin, download the plugin specifically.

As mentioned in the JIRA issue:--

Not just vaguely state that there is a plugin, somewhere..  Not vaguely give
some link to the entire Axis2 distribution..  The problem is that the PLUGIN
can't be FOUND in the DISTRIBUTION because it is located in the WRONG PLACE.

As requested:--
  you need to SPECIFY the EXACT LOCATION of the freakin' plugin.

Or else find a sane place to put it, not in /docs/tools/ where it is f**ing
impossible to find. Is this not obvious enough, for even the blind to see?


If you modify that TOC Page to say, on my behalf -- "we are completely
retarded, but please find the plugin located in /docs/tools folder" -- and
credit that to Thomas W -- then some of your users may actually be able to
*find* the thing.

You are more than welcome to blame me for this.

I expect currently 70%+ of your users cannot find the plugin at all, or
spend hours looking and find it only with extreme difficulty. (Think about
it.. hidden two folders deep in incorrect location,  spurious links to
'download the plugin' which don't, repeated doc pages..  none of which
specify EXACTLY WHERE it is.)

You a group of butt-munchin' morons.

> docs & website repeatedly refer to Eclipse Plugin;  but never specify NAME or WHERE
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: AXIS2-3396
>                 URL:
>             Project: Axis 2.0 (Axis2)
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: documentation, ide plugins, Tools
>    Affects Versions: M2
>         Environment: website
> axis2-M2-bin
>            Reporter: Thomas Whitmore
>            Assignee: Davanum Srinivas
>             Fix For: 1.4
> It's impossible to find.  And without specifying either NAME or LOCATION, there's nothing
much to search for.
> Why not try using a NAME occasionally, when referring to things?
> I find that when talking about city-wide public transport, saying you caught the 'BUS'
makes it vastly more clear what kind of timetables to search for.
> Also, the Eclipse Plugin -- this is referred to 4 or 5x, never it's NAME or LOCATION
-- appears to be located in a .zip under /docs/tools;  within the binary distribution at least.
This ain't the correct place to put it, in the slightest..  though as you (insult deleted)
probably travel to work by public hang-glider (humorous insult deleted)  I'm not surprised.
> Try putting plugins & tooling, under (gasp) a 'tools' folder.
> Yeah I know.. it's hard working on this stuff, to keep an external 'outside user's' perspective.
But try using names.. they really are useful, for cross-referencing and confirmation as well,
even once the actual object or artefact in question has been specified. once.
> Cheers,
> Thomas

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