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Subject: Re: [Axis2] Moving Axis2 code base into JDK 1.5
From: Jeff Barrett <barrettj@us.ibm.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:09:08 -0600
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Hi Folks,

If we choose to stay on 1.4, remember that JAXWS requires Java 1.5 (due to 
the spec-required use of generics).  I think there are a couple of modules 
that require Java 1.5 to build.  Also note that in order to run the JAXWS 
2.1 TCK, that will also require Java 1.5 since the TCK will test the use 
of generics.

So, staying on Java 1.4 and supporting JAXWS probably means something 
like:
- We have to be building with Java 1.5  to get JAXWS built
- We state that Axis2 can be run on 1.4 without JAXWS (as was true in the 
past)
- To use Axis2 with JAXWS, you have to use Java 1.5

Thanks,
Jeff

IBM Software Group - WebSphere Web Services Development
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+1 to moving to Java 5. I think maintenance releases could be key in
keeping those users tied to Java 1.4, interested in Axis2 until
they're ready to move up to Java 5 themselves.

Jeremy

On 27/02/2008, Paul Fremantle <pzfreo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes I guess that makes sense.
>  However, its most likely that we would roll up whatever is in the 
trunk.
>
>  I guess that there might be also end up being a 1.4.1 maintenance
>  release as well.
>
>
>  Paul
>
>
>  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Michele Mazzucco
>  <Michele.Mazzucco@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
>  > Paul,
>  >
>  >  if so, I think release 1.4 should focus on fixing as much bugs as
>  >  possible, not on adding new features.
>  >
>  >  Michele
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On 27 Feb 2008, at 09:59, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>  >
>  >  > My concern is that I think there has been a lot of work done since 
the
>  >  > last release and the JDK1.4 users will never get that benefit.
>  >  >
>  >  > So - how about this for a plan.
>  >  >
>  >  > Release 1.4 asap based on JDK 1.4.
>  >  > Then do a 1.5 release *very soon after* based on JDK1.5.
>  >  >
>  >  > That way even the names match :)
>  >  >
>  >  > Axis2 1.4 can be the last major release targeted at JDK1.4.
>  >  >
>  >  > As for 1.5, I think in fact it will need two releases - once we 
start
>  >  > targeting 1.5 we probably need to do some 1.5 specific stuff like
>  >  > generating code that takes advantage of generics.
>  >  >
>  >  > Paul
>  >  >
>  >  > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Sosnoski 
<dms@sosnoski.com>
>  >  > wrote:
>  >  >>  From my experiences working with companies moving to Axis2 I'd 
say
>  >  >>  about half are still using JDK 1.4. If they can't count on that
>  >  >> support
>  >  >>  being maintained I think they're likely to reconsider adopting
>  >  >> Axis2.
>  >  >>  Just having an archived 1.3 version of Axis2 won't be enough to
>  >  >> convince
>  >  >>  them, unless they're already committed to moving to JDK 1.5 
anyway.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  It seems like bad timing to give up one of the major advantages
>  >  >> of Axis2
>  >  >>  over the Glassfish code and such. So -0 from me.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>   - Dennis
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  --
>  >  >>  Dennis M. Sosnoski
>  >  >>  SOA and Web Services in Java
>  >  >>  Axis2 Training and Consulting
>  >  >>  http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
>  >  >>  Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  Deepal Jayasinghe wrote:
>  >  >>> Hi all ,
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> As you might remember few months back Glen asked the list about
>  >  >>> moving
>  >  >>> to JDK 1.5 and I think we got very positive feedback. So I
>  >  >>> thought of
>  >  >>> asking again and change the code to work with JDK 1.5 . The main
>  >  >>> reason behind sending this mail is due the dependency we have 
for
>  >  >>> annogen. As I can see that project is dead one and there is no
>  >  >>> development happening so I do not think it is a good idea to
>  >  >>> depend on
>  >  >>> such a project. In the meantime we have few issues with annogen 
as
>  >  >>> well ,first  inner class problem (I have locally fixed that both 
in
>  >  >>> Axis2 and Annogen will commit soon) , second is the final class
>  >  >>> problem. I request a release from annogen after the changes that
>  >  >>> Dims
>  >  >>> did , but we did not get any reply so far.
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> We all know that we get better annotation support from JDK 1.5 
so if
>  >  >>> we move to JDK 1.5 we can get rid of the annogen dependency and
>  >  >>> we can
>  >  >>> just use JDK for annotation processing.  Other problem is 
generic
>  >  >>> support , if we move to JDK 1.5 we can have generic support in 
our
>  >  >>> POJOs.  In addition to POJO we can get better concurrent support 
in
>  >  >>> JDK 1.5 as well.
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> So if we move to JDK 1.5 we can get better support , and I do 
not
>  >  >>> think any advantage of staying in 1.4 . If some user want to use
>  >  >>> Axis2
>  >  >>> in JDK 1.4 they can happily use Axis2 1.3 , which is very stable
>  >  >>> version and working fine in 1.4 and 1.5.
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> If any user or developers have any concern on moving to JDK 1.5
>  >  >>> please
>  >  >>> come forward and reply to this mail that will be very helpful 
for
>  >  >>> all
>  >  >>> of us.
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> Here is my +1 for moving to JDK 1.5 to and release Axis2 1.4 in
>  >  >>> JDK 1.5
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> Thank you,
>  >  >>> Deepal
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
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