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From "Deepal Jayasinghe (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Commented: (AXIS2-1120) Phases concept is too confusing - please change for v1.1
Date Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:31:22 GMT
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Deepal Jayasinghe commented on AXIS2-1120:

Well , your first option was there in Axis2 in the initial stage , and when service specific
module try to put handlers into global phase Axis2 was throwing exception. But we had to change
that when it come to real module like security and RM , they wanted not to throw that exception.
And final conclusion was to  implement the module or write the handler keeping where it is
belong in mind. 

For example if you engage a module called "foo" to service called "bar" and it put handler
into global phases , then as a handle write you have to check whether you are engaged to message
coming in and do the processing, using message context you can check whether you are engage
or not.

I also more reluctant to change the Axis2 initial design , I mean allowing service specific
module to put handler into global phases , but finally I have to agree to the community design.
Any way at this moment I dont think we can go ahead and change that , only option we have
is to write proper document explaining how it works and how should you write handler.

> Phases concept is too confusing - please change for v1.1
> --------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: AXIS2-1120
>                 URL:
>             Project: Apache Axis 2.0 (Axis2)
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: core
>    Affects Versions: 1.0
>            Reporter: Thilo Frotscher
>            Priority: Blocker
> With Axis2 1.0 it can easily happen that you engage a module with services without realizing
> This is because even if explicitly engaging a module with a *single* service or a *single*
operation, its handlers will automatically be invoked for *all* services if they belong to
a global phase. There's no warning messages or anything that prevent's you from doing this.
IMHO this bevaviour is very confusing, especially for beginners.
> I think there are two possible solutions to this:
> - disallow engagement with single services or operations for all modules that contain
handlers in global phases
>   (at the very least, display a warning message that the module will actually be invoked
for *all* services)
> - or make sure that handlers in global phases are *available*  to all services, but will
only be invoked for services that they were *explicitly* engaged with
> Either way, the release of Axis2 1.1 is a very good opportunity to change this behaviour.
The later you do this, the more backwards compatibility might have to be sacrificed.
> I am sure that many users will vote for this change once the use of Axis2 in general
and modules in particular is more widespread.
> There was a discussion about this on the mailing list, but somehow it died out:
> Please consider making this change for v1.1
> Thanks!

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