Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 15124 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2005 14:54:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Nov 2005 14:54:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 59743 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2005 14:54:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 59571 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2005 14:54:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list axis-dev@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 59557 invoked by uid 99); 15 Nov 2005 14:54:30 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:54:30 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of HAWKINSJ@uk.ibm.com designates 195.212.29.134 as permitted sender) Received: from [195.212.29.134] (HELO mtagate1.uk.ibm.com) (195.212.29.134) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:54:20 -0800 Received: from d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.185]) by mtagate1.uk.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAFEroD4103256 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:53:55 GMT Received: from d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.37.216]) by d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id jAFErot0211860 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:53:50 GMT Received: from d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAFErnUm008163 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:53:49 GMT Received: from d06ml068.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06ml068.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.194]) by d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAFErnoc008158; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:53:49 GMT To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Cooper_JohnD@emc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fw: WS-Callback support in Axis? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: John Hawkins X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on John Hawkins/UK/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 15/11/2005 14:40:55, Serialize by Notes Client on John Hawkins/UK/IBM(Release 6.0.2CF1|June 9, 2003) at 15/11/2005 14:40:55, Serialize complete at 15/11/2005 14:40:55, S/MIME Sign failed at 15/11/2005 14:40:55: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D06ML068/06/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF247 | January 6, 2005) at 15/11/2005 14:53:49, Serialize complete at 15/11/2005 14:53:49 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:53:48 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0050A69B802570BA_=" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0050A69B802570BA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Any one got a better way? ----- Forwarded by John Hawkins/UK/IBM on 15/11/2005 14:39 ----- Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.com=20 14/11/2005 18:50 Please respond to "Apache AXIS C User List" To axis-c-user@ws.apache.org cc Subject RE: WS-Callback support in Axis? Hi John,=20 =20 Ok, here?s the skinny. I have a tradition C/S relationship. The clients=20 communicate with the server though normal ole WS calls. However and here?s = the twist, I need to be able to have the server ?callback? the clients to=20 cause them to perform actions based on some server state.=20 =20 I saw WS-Callback and thought I was good, in that I could create a WS call = like ?ListenforCmd? and then just have the client pend on the async=20 callback. It?s still a polling model, but the clients only need to post a=20 new ?ListenForCmd? after receiving an action to perform.=20 =20 Without this, I?ll have to have the clients constantly calling back to the = server to find out if the server wants them to do anything, a VERY intense = polling model. =20 I really need an event driven model or traditional callback model to=20 facilitate client control, and un-fortunately for me WS-Callback was a=20 pretty good fit.=20 =20 Does Axis have any paradigms that can help me reach my goal? =20 Thanks, John=20 4400 Computer Drive 2nd floor, Mailstop D239 Ext: 35983 From: John Hawkins [mailto:HAWKINSJ@uk.ibm.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:56 PM To: Apache AXIS C User List Subject: RE: WS-Callback support in Axis? =20 Phew - just ask me the easy ones ;-)=20 Do you mean what other clients to use or what sync patterns are there you=20 can use?=20 Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.com=20 14/11/2005 17:36=20 Please respond to "Apache AXIS C User List" To axis-c-user@ws.apache.org=20 cc =20 Subject RE: WS-Callback support in Axis? =20 =20 =20 Thanks John,=20 =20 What?s the suggested alternative given the current implementation in=20 axis-c?=20 =20 Thanks,=20 John=20 4400 Computer Drive 2nd floor, Mailstop D239 Ext: 35983=20 =20 From: John Hawkins [mailto:HAWKINSJ@uk.ibm.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:59 AM To: Apache AXIS C User List Subject: RE: WS-Callback support in Axis?=20 =20 This support is not currently in-plan.=20 Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.com=20 14/11/2005 15:22=20 =20 Please respond to "Apache AXIS C User List" =20 To axis-c-user@ws.apache.org=20 cc =20 Subject RE: WS-Callback support in Axis? =20 =20 =20 =20 When and is this support planned? Thanks, John=20 4400 Computer Drive 2nd floor, Mailstop D239 Ext: 35983 -----Original Message----- From: Samisa Abeysinghe [mailto:samisa.abeysinghe@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:35 AM To: Apache AXIS C User List Subject: Re: WS-Callback support in Axis? Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.com wrote: > Hi All, > >=20 > > Does Axis support any form of the WS-Callback spec from async=20 > callbacks to the web services client? And if so, where might I find=20 > some examples. > Sorry, Axis C++ does not support async callsbacks. Thanks, Samisa... >=20 > > Thanks! > >=20 > > > Thank you, > > **John D. Cooper*** > *Principal Software Eng. - CAE > > > 4400 Computer Drive > 2^nd floor, Mailstop D239 > Westboro, MA > Phone: 1-508-898-5983 > Internal: 35983 > email: cooper=5Fjohnd@emc.com > >=20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 --=_alternative 0050A69B802570BA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,

Any one got a better way?



----- Forwarded by J= ohn Hawkins/UK/IBM on 15/11/2005 14:39 -----
Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.co= m

14/11/2005 18:50
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Hi John,
 
Ok, here’s the skin= ny. I have a tradition C/S relationship. The clients communicate with the server though normal ole WS calls. However and here’s the twist, I need to be able = to have the server ‘callback’ the clients to cause them to perform= actions based on some server state.
 
I saw WS-Callback and tho= ught I was good, in that I could create a WS call like ‘ListenforCmd’= ; and then just have the client pend on the async callback. It’s still a po= lling model, but the clients only need to post a new ‘ListenForCmd’ a= fter receiving an action to perform.
 
Without this, I’ll = have to have the clients constantly calling back to the server to find out if the server wants them to do anything, a VERY intense polling model.
 
I really need an event dr= iven model or traditional callback model to facilitate client control, and un-fo= rtunately for me WS-Callback was a pretty good fit.
 
Does Axis have any paradi= gms that can help me reach my goal?
 

Thanks,

John

4400 Computer Dr= ive
2nd floor, Mailstop D239
Ext:   35983



From: John Hawkins [mailto:HAWKIN= SJ@uk.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:56 PM
To: Apache AXIS C User List
Subject: RE: WS-Callback support in Axis?
 

Phew - just ask me the easy ones ;-)

Do you mean what other clients to use or what sync patterns are there you can use?



Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.co= m

14/11/2005 17:36


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Thanks John,
 
What’s the suggested alternative given the current implementation in = axis-c?
 

Thanks,

John

4400 Computer Dr= ive
2nd floor, Mailstop D239
Ext:   35983


 


From: John Hawkins [mailto:HAWKINSJ@uk.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:59 AM
To: Apache AXIS C User List
Subject: RE: WS-Callback support in Axis?
 

This support is not currently in-plan.

Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.co= m

14/11/2005 15:22

 


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When and is this support planned?

Thanks,

John

4400 Computer Drive
2nd floor, Mailstop D239
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-----Original Message-----
From: Samisa Abeysinghe [mailto:samisa.abeysinghe@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:35 AM
To: Apache AXIS C User List
Subject: Re: WS-Callback support in Axis?

Cooper=5FJohnD@emc.com wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> Does Axis support any form of the WS-Callback spec from async
> callbacks to the web services client? And if so, where might I find
> some examples.
>
Sorry, Axis C++ does not support async callsbacks.

Thanks,
Samisa...

>  
>
> Thanks!
>
>  
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> **John D. Cooper***
> *Principal Software Eng. - CAE
> <http://www.emc.com/>
>
> 4400 Computer Drive
> 2^nd floor, Mailstop D239
> Westboro, MA
> Phone:     1-508-898-5983
> Internal:   35983
> email:   cooper=5Fjohnd@emc.com <mailto:cooper=5Fjohnd@emc.com= >
>
>  
>
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