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From Aleksander Slominski <as...@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject Re: Fw: [Axis2] Purpose Deployment changes
Date Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:03:18 GMT
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

>ARGH .. YAGNI???
>
>Of course something like a BPEL impl does not need to keep state 
>at that level, but for a single service, IMO it'll be far less
>confusing if we say that session = "usage of a service". That's
>consistent with the common usage of the term "session" and in
>any case easier for people to understand.
>
>If you would like to build a higher level thing we could consider
>it but I definitely don't want to mix that with session. The
>higher level thing is exactly like a BPEL process context right?
>In that case my intuition is that it belongs outside the SOAP
>engine, but I could be convinced otherwise. 
>  
>
i think you are right that it is now out of AXIS2 scope (it will make 
things complicated) but it would be good to have some hooks in engine to 
facilitate BPEL processor integration - it needs to be integrated very 
tightly or you finish with mess of leaky layers of abstractions IMHO ...

alek

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Glen Daniels" <glen@thoughtcraft.com>
>To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Fw: [Axis2] Purpose Deployment changes
>
>
>  
>
>>Hi Sanjiva!
>>
>>No, session is "more global" than service - can't a session include 
>>calls to multiple services (it can in Axis 1...)?
>>
>>--G
>>
>>Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi - not sure whether this went out; mail trouble. Sorry if its dup.
>>>
>>>Sanjiva.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanjiva@opensource.lk>
>>>To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:23 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Purpose Deployment changes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Wrong order? Engine -> Service -> Session -> MEP -> Message ??
>>>>
>>>>Sanjiva.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Glen Daniels" <glen@thoughtcraft.com>
>>>>To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:46 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Purpose Deployment changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Dammit, missed one. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>EngineContext ->
>>>>>>SessionContext ->
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>ServiceContext ->
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>MEPContext (OperationContext) ->
>>>>>>MessageContext
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>--Glen
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>      
>>>


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