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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:39:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Toshiyuki Kimura <toshi@apache.org>
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Subject: [FYI] Re: [News] Migration for Forrest 0.6 on the Axis (Java) site
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Hi folks,

  This is just an interim report.
  I've made contact with David Crossley who is the chair of
the Apache Forrest PMC. The followings are Q&A regarding
how to automate the building of the Apache projects' site.

Thanks,
Toshi <toshi@apache.org>

Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:53:39 +1100
From: David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
To: Toshiyuki Kimura <toshi@apache.org>
Subject: Re: [Q] About using Forrestbot for the Apache projects

Toshiyuki Kimura wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >
> >I would prefer that everything gets discussed on an ASF mailing list.
> >I am happy for you to pass this response on to your PMC list or even
> >to your dev list.
>
>   Thank you very much for the advice and the warm reply !

My pleasure. Glad that i could communicate.

> I'll forward the message to axis-*-dev lists and pmc AT ws.
>
>   Then, I might visit forrest-dev if we have any follow-up
> questions on this issues.

Please do. We need to minimise all hurdles with documentation
creation and publishing.

--David

> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:40:54 +1100
> From: David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
> To: Toshiyuki Kimura <toshi@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [Q] About using Forrestbot for the Apache projects
>
> Toshiyuki Kimura wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> >   My apologies in advance for this unexpected private mail.
>
> I would prefer that everything gets discussed on an ASF mailing list.
> I am happy for you to pass this response on to your PMC list or even
> to your dev list.
>
> >   The Web Services project has a number of sites which are
> > generated by Forrest. Then, the Axis dev team has just migrated to
> > Forrest 0.6. It works fine very much !!
>
> Good.
>
> > The only one thing that we hope Forrest to have, is easy-to-checkout
> > and easy-to-checkin.  Especially, many of committers make complaints
> > about the duplexed checkin sequence for the generated HTML sources
> > and the XML sources of Forrest.
>
> That is not Forrest's fault. That is a current requirement of the ASF.
> All generated websites must be under source control. This applies
> whether it is generated using Forrest, Maven, Anakia, etc.
>
> There is a proposal to change that requirement:
> http://forrest.apache.org/proposal-asf-publish.html
>
> >   Sure, I know Forrestbot. But, I'm not sure whether it's stable
> > and it's OK to use for the Apache projects' site.
>
> It is stable and it works fine. However, it will never be used to
> do "svn commit" of generated ASF websites. Using role-based commits
> are also frowned upon.
>
> That is another reason for the "Proposal" referred to above - generate
> on another server and use rsync. However that is still only a proposal.
>
> We don't even use forrestbot for our own Apache Forrest project website.
>
> We do have an experimental forrestbot to accompany the abovementioned
> proposal: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=110637660517206
>
> > Do you have any good and shorter way to solve our problem ?
>
> Other the proposal, no.
>
> --David