Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37030 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2003 16:58:07 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2003 16:58:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 81467 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2003 16:57:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 81449 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2003 16:57:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list axis-dev@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 81431 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2003 16:57:56 -0000 Message-ID: <3FDF396C.4090009@iseran.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:57:16 +0000 From: Steve Loughran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: IPR for contributions to Axis References: <0016E6145796E14680B831BB76A2129E013CBFB5@mailserver.it-innovation.soton.ac.uk> <3FDF285B.3040602@ebi.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3FDF285B.3040602@ebi.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the Helpdesk for more information X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-6.7, required 5, BAYES_01 -5.40, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION -0.50, IN_REP_TO -0.37, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT -0.38, REFERENCES -0.00, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES 0.00, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA 0.00) X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Tom Oinn wrote: > Hi Darren, > > Seeing as Axis uses libraries (in particular Java Mail and a few others) > that don't have this property, couldn't you contribute in this fashion? > I just poked around the license terms - as you know I am not a lawyer - > and it's certainly implied that copyright is passed on to the foundation > rather than the individual person or organisation that commited it. I > couldn't find a clear statement on the website but perhaps I was looking > in the wrong places. for code to go into the axis codebase, you have to give Apache the rights to it. If you have issues with management about this, point out that you gain access to code written by many people, including IBM, Macromedia and any others. If your company doesnt relinquish the rights, they can retain ownership by keeping the source private. Only then they have to keep the source up to date and deal with the problem of what to do when Axis adds SAAJ1.2 itself -as this will be someone else's implementation. Too often people (esp lawyers) think code contains valuable "intellectual property". But by and large, all it contains is engineering effort that can de duplicated at will. The only area that I have ever come across 'trade secrets' in code are related to algorithms for rendering fonts and the like -and even then the Linux graphics libraries (both X11 and inkjet) are up to par with the 'secret' algorithms.