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From Tom Jordahl <t...@macromedia.com>
Subject RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an open s ource impl of WS-Security at Apache?
Date Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:14:56 GMT

Glen is the one who wants that and he hasn't gotten around to implementing
it yet.  He is currently 'on a break' before starting his new job at Sonic.
He wants to rewrite the build/test framework (for the second time I will
point out) as one of the first things when he has the time. :-)

Also, please remember that we have "unit" tests - run 'ant junit', but when
you run 'ant all-tests' you are running the unit tests AND the functional
test suite, which happens to use JUnit.

Yes, the functional tests are complicated, particularly the WSDL tests, many
of which I wrote.  But amazingly enough, this stuff is *complicated* and
sometimes things are hard to test.

--
Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Kellogg [mailto:rmkellogg@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:57 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an open
source impl of WS-Security at Apache?

I remember some talk of a playback server used for testing SOAP messages.
What ever happened to that?  Does anyone remember?

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron.Knauf@vodafone.co.nz [mailto:Aaron.Knauf@vodafone.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:30 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an open
source impl of WS-Security at Apache?


Ah, I see.  Fair enough.

Unit tests should remain as small and clear as possible.  There is often a
tendency among developers to bloat their unit tests into full function
tests.  That is not the intended purpose of the tool.

Cheers

ADK

--------------------------------------------

There is no magic.


 

                    "Kellogg,

                    Richard"             To:     <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>

                    <RKellogg@MICR       cc:

                    OS.COM>              Subject:     RE: [wss][Off-Topic?]
Anyone interested in helping with an open source     
                                          impl of WS-Security at Apache?

                    10/15/2003

                    10:09 AM

                    Please respond

                    to axis-dev

 

 





It's not the number of tests.

The fact is the code is very complicated in many circumstances and one
cannot determine what is actually being tested.
We do not have even minimal comments on most of the tests.  Without being
intimately familiar with the entire Axis code base, someone looking at the
tests will commonly have a hard time tracking down what error
condition/boundary is tested.

Does that make sense?
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron.Knauf@vodafone.co.nz [mailto:Aaron.Knauf@vodafone.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:58 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an open
source impl of WS-Security at Apache?



Too many unit tests?  Is that possible?  What is the down side that you are
trying to highlight?

ADK

--------------------------------------------

There is no magic.



                    "Kellogg,

                    Richard"             To:     <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>

                    <RKellogg@MICR       cc:

                    OS.COM>              Subject:     RE: [wss][Off-Topic?]
Anyone interested in helping with an open source
                                          impl of WS-Security at Apache?

                    10/15/2003

                    09:55 AM

                    Please respond

                    to axis-dev







I am interested in developing a test suite for Axis/.NET compatibility.
Was thinking of using NUnit for client side testing.  Any thoughts on the
topic?

My impression is that we have way too many java based junit tests with
little documentation of what is actually being tested.

Any work on this topic would have to be done on my own time.  Too busy at
work.

Please start to think about any issues we might have.
Rick
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Srinivas, Davanum M [mailto:Davanum.Srinivas@ca.com]
     Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:48 PM
     To: de Freitas, John; axis-dev@ws.apache.org
     Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an
     open source impl of WS-Security at Apache?



     All areas need development and interop testing :) intention is to
     start with UserNameToken, then XML-ENC, XML-DSIG.

     -- dims


     -----Original Message-----
     From:   de Freitas, John [mailto:jdefreitas@netegrity.com]
     Sent:   Tue 10/14/2003 3:40 PM
     To:     Srinivas, Davanum M
     Cc:
     Subject:        RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping
     with an open source impl of WS-Security at Apache?
     Fantastic - I found the code in the Axis repository.

     One final question - is there a particular area that is especially in
     need
     of development (i.e., X.509 profile, functionality needed by the WSS
     interop
     scenarios, etc)?

     Regards,
     John G. de Freitas

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Srinivas, Davanum M [mailto:Davanum.Srinivas@ca.com]
     Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:37 PM
     To: de Freitas, John
     Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an
     open
     source impl of WS-Security at Apache?


     We are trying to bootstrap the project from the axis community. So
     right now
     the code is in the ws-axis cvs module and discussions are on axis
     developers
     mailing list (you can subscribe to the list by sending an email to
     axis-dev-subscribe@ws.apache.org <
     mailto:axis-dev-subscribe@ws.apache.org>
     ).

     Thanks,
     dims

     -----Original Message-----
     From: de Freitas, John [mailto:jdefreitas@netegrity.com]
     Sent: Tue 10/14/2003 2:50 PM
     To: Srinivas, Davanum M
     Cc:
     Subject: RE: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an
     open
     source impl of WS-Security at Apache?


     Hello:

     The project sounds interesting. One issue: I can't seem to checkout
     the
     project's CVS repository. Is the repository named "ws-wss4j", as
     indicated
     in the Apache Wiki's page
     http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SecurityProposal
     <http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?SecurityProposal>  ?

     Also on that page, are indications that there are Apache WSS mailing
     lists,
     though I can't find them @ marc.theaimsgroup.com.
     Thanks.

     Regards,
     John G. de Freitas

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Srinivas, Davanum M [mailto:Davanum.Srinivas@ca.com]
     Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:21 AM
     To: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
     Subject: [wss][Off-Topic?] Anyone interested in helping with an open
     source
     impl of WS-Security at Apache?



     Anyone interested in helping with an open source impl of WS-Security
     at
     Apache? See
     <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=106613365921314&w=2>
     http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=106613365921314&w=2

     Thanks,
     dims

     Davanum Srinivas
     Computer Associates
     Senior Architect, Web Services Group
     Tel: +1 508 628 8251
     davanum.srinivas@ca.com







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