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From "Steve Loughran" <stev...@iseran.com>
Subject Re: RE: Fine grained multiref control
Date Tue, 20 May 2003 22:50:41 GMT

the appropriate tactic in such situations is to keep everyone's expectations
low. "I'd like to help, but I'm too important". Then go throught the
codebase and remove your email address from it. Andy Norman, who contributed
ange-ftp to emacs 15+ years ago still gets the odd help request because he
left his email address in.

Actually the best contribution is probably to write down your knowledge. A
lot of the codebase lacks javadocs of any quality. If the code and the arch
is documented well, we dont need to track down people so often.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Rineholt" <rineholt@us.ibm.com>
To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:45
Subject: Re: RE: Fine grained multiref control


> Rich,
> Be afraid..., be very afraid
>
>
> >we'll dont scare him off. Start off with 'we are need of your experience
> in
> >a consultancy role', before devolving to assigning bugs :)
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Jordahl" <tomj@macromedia.com>
> >To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 08:11
> >Subject: RE: RE: Fine grained multiref control
> >
> >> Just trying to pull him back in to the fold...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Jordahl
> >> Macromedia Server Development
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:04 AM
> >> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: RE: Fine grained multiref control
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom,
> >> Are you saying that there are some bugs in the stuff Rich suggested?
> >> Or just saving on sending a post card? :-)
> >> >
> >> >Hi Rich!!
> >> >
> >> >Long time no Email, we worried that you (and Russell) had fallen off a
> >cliff
> >> >somewhere (in Texas?) and we didn't get word.
> >> >
> >> >Want to fix some bugs?  JJ
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Tom Jordahl
> >> >Macromedia Server Development
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: R J Scheuerle Jr [mailto:scheu@us.ibm.com]
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:11 AM
> >> >To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >> >Subject: Re: Fine grained multiref control
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><unlurk>
> >> >The serialization code uses identity equals (not the generated equals)
> to
> >> >determine that how to serialize hrefs.
> >> >One approach to take is to add a flag in the meta data (TypeDesc) to
> >indicate
> >> >that the bean is always single referenced.
> >> >Then change SerializationContextImpl to respect this flag.
> >> >A second approach is to use doc/lit.
> >> >Another approach is to use SOAP1.2 encoding, which inlines hrefs.  I
> >think
> >> this
> >> >support is already in the Axis runtime.
> >> ></unlurk>
> >> >Rich Scheuerle
> >> >IBM WebSphere Web Services Development
> >> >512-838-5115  (IBM TL 678-5115)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rick Rineholt/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> >> >
> >> > 05/20/2003 07:09 AM
> >> > Please respond to axis-dev
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >          To:        axis-dev@xml.apache.org
> >> >          cc:
> >> >          Subject:        Fine grained multiref control
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have Object that I want to serialize that  will never be referenced
> >more
> >> than
> >> >once, and does not reference anything else,  and want to always have
> the
> >> >generation of mulitrefs for this object to be turned off.  Ideally, I
> >would
> >> >want to do this (specify)  in it's serializer.  Is this possible ?
> >> > (Reasonable?)
> >> >BTW: Does Axis determine that to objects are referenced to the same
> >object by
> >> >doing an equals on all parm Objects embeded  objects of complex types
> to
> >> >determine they are the same and can share the same href/id ?  Just
> >curious.
> >> >Thanks
> >> >rineholt@us.ibm.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick Rineholt
> >> "The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
> >>
> >> rineholt@us.ibm.com
> >>
> >>
>
>
> Rick Rineholt
> "The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
>
> rineholt@us.ibm.com
>


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