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From Tom Jordahl <t...@macromedia.com>
Subject RE: RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
Date Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:27:53 GMT
Rick wrote:
>If you want  to go in "truckstopper" mode and be more selective of fixes
>and discuss that in a conference that's fine. If you decide we are going
>to change the way things have worked and just  ignore what other people
>request accept for the select few, shouldn't have that been voted on? :-(

Rick,

Please see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=103339449319208&w=2
and the votes that follow.

I wrote:
3. Authorize Sam to clamp down HARD (truck stopper mode) on any source changes - i.e.
automatic VETO on everything unless it is a serious regression caused by all of these
bug fixes.  Russell and myself will back him up with -1 votes on merge requests
(unless its one of ours of course :-).

And got at 5 positive votes on that.

--
Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:19 PM
To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?



>Rick,
>This was discussed in detail on the conference calls with Sam, the release

>manager, and a large number of committers.  I believe you were on these
calls.
>The time for raising objections to the plan is not after the plan has been

>agreed upon. :-(

If you want  to go in "truckstopper" mode and be more selective of fixes
and discuss that in a conference that's fine. If you decide we are going
to change the way things have worked and just  ignore what other people
request accept for the select few, shouldn't have that been voted on? :-(

>We are in closedown mode - very little to nothing goes in.
>I think that is pretty simple.  We are at T-2 days till release!
>What fix exactly are you hot to get in?  Have you convinced Sam that it
should
>go in?  How many votes does it have?  What is the risk factor?

VOTE: submission to 1.0 branch: cvs commit:
xml-axis/java/src/org/apache/axis/encoding/ser ArraySerializer.java

>I will -1 any change for 1.0 that doesn't have a very low risk factor.
>REASON: We are too close to release to make any risky changes.


Rick Rineholt
"The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"

rineholt@us.ibm.com

>I believe that is sufficient, don't you?
>I also believe that others feel the same way.  Others - speak up! :-)
>--
>Tom Jordahl
>Macromedia Server Development
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:24 AM
>To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
>Subject: RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
>
>No Tom, that's not what that says nor does it say that we are going to
just
>ignore what people have requested in.
>What I asked has also nothing todo with the "Truckstopper" mode criteria
>nor does that mean abandoning what we agreed on earlier namely committers
>requesting things put in and if someone feels no they should -1 with
>REASON!.
>The mode you are advocating is:
>Sure put things on the dock, and we won't bother telling you not to,
>because in the end we plan on loading the truck with only what we want and
>take just taking off.  -1 to that!
>
>Rick Rineholt
>"The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
>rineholt@us.ibm.com
>
>Tom Jordahl <tomj@macromedia.com> on 10/02/2002 10:32:56 AM
>Please respond to axis-dev@xml.apache.org
>To:    "'axis-dev@xml.apache.org'" <axis-dev@xml.apache.org>
>cc:
>Subject:    RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
>
>
>Rick,
>See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=103339449319208&w=2
>This plan was approved via Email and on the Conference call that followed
>it (which I believe you were a part of).
>We are in truckstopper mode: Would you run after the truck taking the CDs
>away to fix this bug?
>--
>Tom Jordahl
>Macromedia Server Development
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:25 AM
>To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
>Subject: RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
>
>Tom,
>I don't remember  us agreeing on " automatic -1, or the overwhelming
>agreement on inclusion".   I would have -1 that plan.  I think if someone
>has gone to the trouble of asking  something to be put in and someone
>disagrees it deserves a  REAL -1 reply AND a some reason why.
>The approach I would have liked seen is:
>A note:
>These fixes have been asked to be submitted to R 1.0 branch with no -1 for
>the last two days:
>- Fix 1
>- Fix 2
>etc
>If no -1's are made by end of the day they WILL be merged in tonight.
>If this wasn't too much of a burden.
>
>Rick Rineholt
>"The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
>rineholt@us.ibm.com
>
>Tom Jordahl <tomj@macromedia.com> on 10/02/2002 10:01:42 AM
>Please respond to axis-dev@xml.apache.org
>To:    "'axis-dev@xml.apache.org'" <axis-dev@xml.apache.org>
>cc:
>Subject:    RE: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
>
>
>No fixes have been merged in to 1.0 since rc2 was built on Monday.
>Perhaps it would help if there was a summary of fixes that are in
>consideration?
>My take on it is that NO src/* fixes will be approved (automatic -1 from
>Sam) unless we have an overwhelming agreement on inclusion.
>My take on the only two changes I wouldn't -1:
>isConvertable() change: +1
>- it is a regression
>- it is low risk
>servlet.jar change: +1
>- 'look like dorks' bug
>- another regression
>- medium-low risk
>
>All doc/* and samples/* files should be merged from HEAD in to 1.0 before
>the final build.  It would also not be unreasonable for **/build.xml to be
>merged also, but this should be case by case.
>In all cases, Sam Ruby is the final authority on what gets merged as he is
>the release manager.
>--
>Tom Jordahl
>Macromedia Server Development
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:53 AM
>To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
>Subject: What fixes are now in R 1.0?
>
>I've asked for some fixes voted into R 1.0 without any -1's and I've seen
>others do the same, but not sure except doing diffs and being familiar
with
>all the changes to determine what has been accepted in R1.0.  Is there
>another way and I just missed it?   (except the diff solution :-)
>Rick Rineholt
>"The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
>rineholt@us.ibm.com
>
>
>
>


Rick Rineholt
"The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"

rineholt@us.ibm.com



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