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From Richard Sitze <rsi...@us.ibm.com>
Subject Re: user id request
Date Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:09:06 GMT
Nothing personal Dave.

I'm usually the last to vote for bureaucracy.  Process must be balanced by 
common sense.

On the one hand, the process is (generally) that you make yourself 
familiar to the community by submitting patches.  You gain experience in 
the process/style/discussion of the community - then you (we prefer rather 
quickly) become a commiter.  In this case 'quickly' was VERY quickly. . . 
Note that I didn't vote against you.

On the other hand, you & your team are working on items incidental to the 
main work of the team.  There may or may not be a problem, and from your 
comments its sounds like the possibility is low.

Normally I wouldn't take a hard-line stance on this (I can say that since 
it didn't happen that way :-).  However, on top of the above issues, there 
is an impending 1.0 release.  I, myself, am trying to stay out of the way 
of the core group working on TCK & interop issues.  I'm probably the worst 
for rocking the boat at this point. . . [having tests back on-line will be 
helpful :-]

The last thing anyone wants at this point in the game is to rock the boat 
more than it needs to be.  I'm not so much voting AGAINST new committers, 
but rather that I'm trying to balance the issues by voting for stability, 
flexibility (dave or ? becomes committer) AND process for new committers.

Let 1.0 out the door [primary goal being to pass TCK], and we should be 
able to resolve this to everyones satisfaction.

*******************************************
Richard A. Sitze
IBM WebSphere WebServices Development




David Chappell <chappell@sonicsoftware.com>
09/17/2002 03:08 PM
Please respond to axis-dev
 
        To:     axis-dev@xml.apache.org
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: user id request 

 



David Chappell wrote:
...
>
> I can assure you that we will not be disruptive to 1.0.
> Dave

Meaning, the only thing we might possibly check into the 1.0 tree from
here on would be some documentation and some critical bug fixes should
that need arise.
Dave

>
> James M Snell wrote:
> >
> > Nah, all three of 'em will do active.
> >
> > - James Snell
> >      IBM Emerging Technologies
> >      jasnell@us.ibm.com
> >      (559) 587-1233 (office)
> >      (700) 544-9035 (t/l)
> >      Programming Web Services With SOAP
> >          O'Reilly & Associates, ISBN 0596000952
> >
> >      Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous.
> >      Do not be terrified, do not be discouraged, for the Lord your
> >      God will be with you whereever you go.    - Joshua 1:9
> >
> > Richard Sitze/Austin/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 09/17/2002 11:24:12 AM:
> >
> > > >I'm fine with that, but if we go that route the
> > > >committer should be whoever is going to do the
> > > >most work on the code (would that be Jaime?)...
> >
> > > +1
> >
> > >
> > > *******************************************
> > > Richard A. Sitze
> > > IBM WebSphere WebServices Development
> >
> > >
> > > Glen Daniels <gdaniels@macromedia.com>
> > > 09/17/2002 12:57 PM
> > > Please respond to axis-dev
> >
> > > To:     "'axis-dev@xml.apache.org'" <axis-dev@xml.apache.org>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject:        RE: user id request
> > >
> > > I'm fine with that, but if we go that route the committer should be
> > > whoever is going to do the most work on the code (would that be
> > Jaime?)...
> >
> > > --Glen
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Richard Sitze [mailto:rsitze@us.ibm.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:53 PM
> > > > To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
> > > > Cc: pmc@xml.apache.org; root@apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: user id request
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WHOA WHOA...
> > > >
> > > > There WAS a vote called for ONE committer, David Chappell.
> > > >
> > > > There WAS NOT a vote for any others.
> > > >
> > > > I was silent on David (personally, I'd like to see patches 
submitted
> > > > first), but I'm going to -1 anyone else.  Seems like we've
> > > > got someone to
> > > > represent the work, and I think we need time to get to know
> > > > them before we
> > > > call for more submitters without history.  Until 1.0 ships,
> > > > this should
> > > > have only MINIMAL impact on AXIS.  Taking this slow is the
> > > > right thing to
> > > > do.
> > > >
> > > > <ras>
> > > >
> > > > *******************************************
> > > > Richard A. Sitze
> > > > IBM WebSphere WebServices Development
> > > >
>
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Sonic Software - Backbone of the Extended Enterprise
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David Chappell <chappell@sonicsoftware.com> Office: (781)999-7099
Mobile: (617)510-6566
Vice President and Chief Technology Evangelist, Sonic Software
co-author,"Java Web Services", (O'Reilly 2002)
"The Java Message Service", (O'Reilly 2000)
"Professional ebXML Foundations", (Wrox 2001)
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Richard Sitze


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