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From Russell Butek <>
Subject RE: rc2 status
Date Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:12:14 GMT

+1 on your proposal, Tom.

Russell Butek

Tom Jordahl <> on 09/30/2002 09:00:53 AM

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To:    "''" <>
Subject:    RE: rc2 status

I am in agreement with Sam and Russell.  I never voted for putting
*everything* in, nor did I agree with the message calling for such an

While I did have defects that I requested be merged in to 1.0, there were
for 1.0 targeted bugs ONLY.  I am an automatic +1 to any and all
documentation and samples changes, because this is where users look first.
But I am NOT in favor of much more going in at all.  This is why we

In particular, a change of mine that did get merged in I sent a note about
Friday expressing my concerns that it needed a serious peer review and that
it had a medium-high risk factor on it.  It only got a single +1 from Rich.

Here is my proposal:

1. Release some sort of RC (2 or 3?) today with the 1.0 branch and all of
its changes.  Get it in to the hands of the users - NOW.

2. Automatically merge any changes from HEAD to 1.0 in the directories doc
and samples but NOT src.

3. Authorize Sam to clamp down HARD (truck stopper mode) on any source
changes - i.e. automatic VETO on everything unless it is a serious
regression caused by all of these bug fixes.  Russell and myself will back
him up with -1 votes on merge requests (unless its one of ours of course

4. Release 1.0 and get on with 1.1 on HEAD.

Committers - what do YOU think?

Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Butek []
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: rc2 status

I would really like to stop this Friday, so I agree with Sam.  If you
notice, I've been silent on a number of the votes because I don't think we
need them for 1.0.  I haven't gone so far as to veto anything, but I've
also noticed that some things didn't get the minimum 3 votes, so maybe
other folks are voting like I am by not voting?  I myself have nothing more
to get in.  The two items I opened a vote for last week (and which DID get
enough votes) were required to pass the JAX-RPC TCK, which could be
considered dork-category things - it would be somewhat embarrassing not to
pass the TCK when we've been saying all along that AXIS is a JAX-RPC

(By the way, Sam, any more thoughts on the lone failure in your automated
TCK run?)

Russell Butek

Sam Ruby <> on 09/27/2002 04:27:01 PM

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Subject:    Re: rc2 status

Richard Sitze wrote:
> +1 to releasing ALL changes todate.

The objective here is to slow down and eventually stop at some point.  I
really would like to change the prevailing sentiment from "I see nothing
obviously wrong with that change so it should be included" to "I really
think that we would look like dorks unless that particular change was

- Sam Ruby

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