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From "Glyn Normington" <>
Subject RE: too many "inactive" committers
Date Wed, 29 May 2002 15:21:33 GMT

>Perhaps reviewing the submissions and -1'ing them would be better than
>to keep silent. Otherwise, contributing has no sense, and people give up.
>This is the fourth case that I'm aware of in axis-dev.

People giving up *really* gets to me, especially as I must take partial
responsibility. Not only is Axis the worse, but the people involved
presumably go away feeling their contributions were unwanted, which is a
great shame.

I'd like to play my part in fixing this, but since Axis is the first open
source project I've worked on, I'm still learning the ropes. What should I
do when someone sends in a plausible patch in an area that's unfamiliar to
me but the other commiters appear to ignore it? Should I vote +1 and if
there are another two positive votes, take that as a mandate to commit the
change? I guess the problem is I'm hesitant to change code that I don't
personally understand well, so I tend to leave this to the experts in a
particular area, even though they may be too busy. Do I need to have
thoroughly understood any change I commit or is it reasonable to put some
trust in the submitter of the change?

On a slightly different tack, I was approached on two separate occasions
with offers of help to implement the JAXM SOAP interfaces, but when I
explained how to make a start, I heard nothing more. Perhaps newcomers
worry about communicating openly on axis-dev? How can we cut through the
mystique and let newcomers know that the rest of us are just ordinary
programmers doing our best, understanding some things but not everything,
and occasionally messing up and helping each other fix things up? For some
reason, just saying this doesn't seem enough.


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