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From "Steve Loughran" <>
Subject Re: doc/lit and WS-I
Date Wed, 22 May 2002 17:21:43 GMT

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From: "Russell Butek" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:57 AM
Subject: doc/lit and WS-I

> WS-I is forming it's base profile as I write this note.  They are
> suggesting that all web services engines MUST support, at a minimum,
> doc/lit over the wire.  This means that we must be able to export doc/lit
> WSDL, ie., provide a doc/lit flag on Java2WSDL.  What sort of WSDL do we
> export?  The same we do now except replacing rpc/encoding with
> document/literal?  Or a .NET style (which the WS-I folks are viewing as a
> SOAP section 7 style - though I don't completely agree - I think Microsoft
> did things that shouldn't have been done - like essentially ignoring the
> message clause)?

Here is my fundamental issue with the WS-I: is it focused on interop, like
SOAP builders, or public rubberstamping of existing implementations to meet
the implementors strategic goals.

I mean, its not like the MS implementations pay full attention to section 5,
and the .net stack(s) dont do SwA _or_ their proposed DIME alternative.

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