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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache - WSIF
Date Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:46:14 GMT
Thanks a ton for all your efforts. I definitely see the value of having WSIF as a technology
within Apache. It is a welcome addition to our SOAP/WSDL related tools already in Apache.
If we
can extend the implementation to support JAXRPC/JAXM in addition to Apache Axis and Apache
will be even better bet going forward as those API's mature [i mean released :-)] and will
more buy-in from developers. You have my +1 :)

Sam, Team,
You can count me in on efforts to target various portions of the WebServices Stack and have
one-stop shop under Apache for WebServices developers to turn to for all their needs. I don't
really care about which form we do it -- A separate PMC or an umbrella similar to Avalon (under
Jakarta), either one (or any other form) is ok by me.


--- Sam Ruby <> wrote:
> Glyn Normington wrote:
> >
> >> Long term, I'd love to see a WebServices project parallel to Jakarta and
> >> XML.
> >
> > +1. If that just involved a change to the web site to re-classify Apache
> > SOAP and Axis, why couldn't it be done sooner rather than later? Would
> > there be significant Apache project management changes as well?
> I'm thinking in terms of a separate PMC.
> These types of things always involve much more than anyone would reasonably
> predict.  The web site is the least of my concerns.  The problem is that
> when you contemplate a change like this, people start revisiting and
> questioning every assumption.  Should Axis be the code base?  Should Axis
> be split up?  Should xml-security be included?  How about xml-rpc?  Are
> there other code bases we should look to incorporate into the fold?
> What is the vision, mission, and goals of the new project?
> My intent at the moment is just to plan a seed so that it can possibly
> germinate later.  These are excellent things to pursue after an Axis has a
> release.  Meanwhile, I'd prefer that these considerations not derail
> discussions as to whether or not there is general interest in WSIF as a
> technology within Apache.
> - Sam Ruby

Davanum Srinivas -

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