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From "Theodore W. Leung" <>
Subject Re: Merging soap, axis, wasp, and wsdl communities.
Date Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:26:19 GMT
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 08:04, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I have found the discussion on WASP to be a productive one.  Now it is time
> to move from general discussion to development activities.  Here's a recap
> of a few conclusions:
> Goal 1: achieve a single active SOAP implementation.
>    There is no plans to maintain in perpetuity a separate identity for
>    multiple code bases.  From a technical perspective, what will emerge
>    will be based primarily on what directions active committers choose to
>    take these code bases.  Needless to say, those that participate more
>    will have a correspondingly larger say.


> Goal 2: grow a larger "web services" community building upon this common
> code base

>    Like avalon, turbine, tomcat, and ant; we can and should organize
>    separate code bases which build upon this common base into
>    "sub-sub-projects".
>    If it is felt that the name "axis" is too prejudicial, then by all means
>    lets rename the project.  But when all is said and done, the name we
>    come up with should (1) be the name of the common soap code base that we
>    all participate in, and (2) should be the name of the common -dev
>    mailing list that defines the community.
>    One thing I want to specifically call out here: just as
>    subprojects are not artificially limited in scope to only support Apache
>    XML parsers or Apache XSLT processors, sub-sub-projects of whatever
>    common name we come up with will not be limited to only supporting this
>    soap stack.

The way I read this is "we want to support multiple SOAP stacks".  Is
that what you mean?  Otherwise, it would seem odd if we didn't support
our own soap stack.

> Summary: what matters most is the community.  At times we will certainly
> disagree over technical issues, but over time the code base with the
> largest active development community will attract both the largest
> mindshare and marketshare.
> At this point, I'd like to suggest that discussions continue on axis-dev.
> These discussions can include coming up with a new name, contributions of
> fragments or complete soap implementations, and contributions of code bases
> which build upon a soap stack...
> - Sam Ruby

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